Perfect Pass retrofit?

[mabbore]

I have a 87 Supra Sunsport with a 351. I love it but its a pain to keep the speed dialed in, especially on the busiest inland waterway (chain of lakes). I am constantly white knuckling trying to monitor the speed and avoid other idiots on the chain. I have seen various perfect pass parts on eBay and whatnot. Has anyone ever retrofitted a used system like this? I know there are better ways to accomplish this (ie buy a new kit) but I really don’t have the cash for that.

[chrisk]

Go to modifications then read the 6th thread down.

[Jetlink]

Here's a better idea, avoid the high traffic areas if you are riding...way cheaper that way and less headache. :D

[Hematoma]

A new prop will help ALOT with pulling and maintaining speed, if you are running the 13x13 and a good amount of ballast it will be a struggle. Lots easier to buy a prop than to cobble a perfect pass kit together.

[86 century]

It depended on what you want you can put a basic cruise together for around $500.

The big hang up on getinig a stargazer system put together is the master module,and gps antena.

[jet]

Im in the same boat man. I have been try to figure this out for a long time. I cant go spend another $1000-$1100 for one of these after blowing a wad on my re-do. There is a generic company I saw out there that has one for $750 but I wouldnt mind blowing $500 bucks on it but $1000 is just outside of my "NO WAY" zone. ?? What can we do?? Bungee cord?? Duct tape?? Com-on!! Lets do this!

[Hematoma]

Im in the same boat man. I have been try to figure this out for a long time. I cant go spend another $1000-$1100 for one of these after blowing a wad on my re-do. There is a generic company I saw out there that has one for $750 but I wouldnt mind blowing $500 bucks on it but $1000 is just outside of my "NO WAY" zone. ?? What can we do?? Bungee cord?? Duct tape?? Com-on!! Lets do this!Jet have you reproped your boat? It is the best money you will spend. You won't have to jack with the throttle at all when pulling. If it's the cool factor your wanting then yes PP is the way to go. If your wanting to pull with out constantly jacking with the throttle than that can be takin care of with a good prop.

[angus2112]

take a look at this justin at hydrophase will help you out http://www.hydrophase.com/ridesteady

[jayschock]

I just picked up a PP wakeboard pro used on another forum for $500. The cable wasn't the correct one for my 88 Supra Comp so I called PP. Their customer services is the best I've experienced in some time. They had me email pictures of what I had and set me up with the rest of the parts that I needed. I think the cost of the parts was around $75.00 including shipping. Thought I was in way over my head installing this myself but had it all installed in about 3 hours (that includes a good hour of getting up the balls to drill a 2 inch hole in my hull). Works great. I love my cruise control. "Set it and forget it".

[jet]

Yep!! 14x14 HUGE prop for me boat and weight. Im a experienced driver and dont need PP, but it sure would help my marriage!! Thats why they call it "The Marriage Saver" No, just kidding my wife has done better (really GREAT) than most of my guy friends have in the past. Its just when people are talking to her, changing the radio, and watching out for other boats happen ALL at the same time it gets hard for non-regular drivers and PP would really help that. The Hydrophase is the one I was talking about in my thread. It looks like it will get the job done. The reason its hard for me is because I can look at thoes parts and say..there aint $1100 worth of parts there. lol

[ProZach415]

A new prop will help ALOT with pulling and maintaining speed, if you are running the 13x13 and a good amount of ballast it will be a struggle. Lots easier to buy a prop than to cobble a perfect pass kit together.

+1. I support this. Changing my prop made my perfect pass near flawless.

[86 century]

I didn't put pp on for other people. Was a gift to me so I have a good pull with almost anyone behind the wheel.

I'm my opinion was money well spent.

[Hematoma]

Yep!! 14x14 HUGE prop for me boat and weight. Im a experienced driver and dont need PP, but it sure would help my marriage!! Thats why they call it "The Marriage Saver" No, just kidding my wife has done better (really GREAT) than most of my guy friends have in the past. Its just when people are talking to her, changing the radio, and watching out for other boats happen ALL at the same time it gets hard for non-regular drivers and PP would really help that. The Hydrophase is the one I was talking about in my thread. It looks like it will get the job done. The reason its hard for me is because I can look at thoes parts and say..there aint $1100 worth of parts there. lolLOL, I hear ya on the wife driven. She gets side tracked listening to the radio next thing you know your surfing on the swim platform. lol

[CornRickey]

PP is the best opinion my Supra has over my SN. That's saying a lot considering the differences in the two. It has given a lot of comfort to my wife while towing. If you are planning on keeping the boat I'd pay for it knowing what I know now. I agree I could drive the boat without it but I don't want to have to drive the boat all the time (i want to be behind it).

[kvand347]

Isn't PP Cruise $675? Maybe that is a better fit for you. I'm pretty sure you can upgrade to stargazer when the money comes around again.

I agree with the everyone on the prop upgrade, but it still isn't perfect...just smaller adjustments compared to big ones.

[cadunkle]

I didn't put pp on for other people. Was a gift to me so I have a good pull with almost anyone behind the wheel.

I'm my opinion was money well spent.

Yep, I can give anyone a good pull. I bought PP so I can enjoy riding, because nobody I know can drive worth a damn. It was without a doubt the best money I've ever spent on my boat, and worth every penny.

[86 century]

As a bonus I have it a lot easyer to.

Reproping is a good idea to optimize for what you do most.

In our case we need to be able to surf and barefoot.

So I good set up for surfing that will also work for bearfoot speeds didn't look like it was Gama happen.

[NorCalPR]

Odd as it sounds, my 98 Comp with a 13x13 holds speed with no problems when surfing and weighted down. When wakeboarding, it's another story though :(

[a_deleon]

Can someone help a new guy with props. I have a 14x14 on my 83 star and I was looking at something that would be better for me. I know it's a 14x14 with a .080 cup on it and the one I was looking at that acme recomends is a 13x13 10.5 pitch. I was looking at a PP for my older boat but we been able to keep the speeds about where we want it at even for surfing. Would adding a a new pitch work on the prop I have or will a the 13x13 work better? I am weighted down also when I am out on the water.

[jet]

A deleon NO! You would be going backwards..unless you were looking for more topend speed. 14" dia is bigger and more surface (forward push) area than your 13" and the 2nd 14" means it pushes 14" forward thru the water for every rotation and your old prop only moves you 13" so thats less push or forward moving distance. Make since now?? A 14x14 is a big prop and great for moving heavy weight or torque and thats something you want with a heavy surfing speed. Stick with it!

Now, all of this is void if you ment you have a 14x14 3-blade and now your going up to a 13x13 4-blade. That would be a upgrade and I would say yes but I would also move up even higher to the 14x14 or 14x14.25 if your a 1-1 trans. You may as well go really big and use less motor at the low end, your top speed will suffer by 5-10 mph but some dont really care like me on top end. Our boats are tractors or pullers NOT speed boats. lol

[cole1]

I need to upgrade my prop... I have a 14x16 3 blade. It tops out at 35 mph at 4500. Seems like it pulls good out of the hole but doesn't stay at a consistent speed like I need it to...

[a_deleon]

I have a 14x14 3 blade prop and from what I read on the 1:1 trans that the 13x13 3 blade is what they reccomended on it. I was thinking of the 4 blade props but from what I have seen people are suggesting the 3 blade props for me to use. Right now the prop and the 440 chrysler I have pull you up just fine but it takes a little longer when I weight it down. I was just wondering what I might need to look at. We can hold speeds pretty well right now but I do want to add a PP in the future.

[cole1]

I happen to have a fresh 13x13 3 blade LH for a 1:1 that I will make you a deal on... I have a 1.23:1 and it takes a RH prop.

[jet]

If your struggling with ballast a lil..your under propped!

[mabbore]

I have a very small ding on my prop and what looks like a small wobble on the shaft. I was planning on pulling both to get them rebuilt. is it even worth gettin the prop repitched/fixed?

[Hematoma]

These seem to be a good combo for our boats+ballast.

Acme 13x10.5
Acme 13x12.5

[cole1]

I have a very small ding on my prop and what looks like a small wobble on the shaft. I was planning on pulling both to get them rebuilt. is it even worth gettin the prop repitched/fixed?

That depends on how bad it is... I have a guy that does an awesome job!

[a_deleon]

I figured it was a little under pitch but it doesn't make that much of a difference and I am adding 975 lbs of ballast. Then again I don't want to add more work to the motor and tranny and get something that is made for what I want to do. I was looking at a 13x10.5 and I think it's an Acme 913 that is a LH prop. I just wonder if getting the 14 repitched would probaly give a better result instead of the 913 prop.

[mabbore]

That depends on how bad it is... I have a guy that does an awesome job!

Its really not that bad, I have had props repaired before, probley like 100-130, but should I try to get it re pitched and balanced too? or just dump 400 in a new prop.

[sydneyACE]

How'd this thread go from a "PP retrofit" thread to a "which prop do I need" thread?

[jet]

Yea! A prop will make a BIG difference if your under proped and weighting your boat down but I have a BIG prop and have 20 yrs experience in pulling riders and Its a lil difficult to keep my boat at speed. When in my buddys boats its nice to relax and have fun while pulling riders.