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devovino
08-29-2014, 03:23 PM
So I installed my "prototype" surf gate a few days ago, and my friend took a video of it I thought i would share. He is definitely no Spielberg, in fact the video is a neck breaker, he must have turned the camera a few times during filming! Haaha! Along with that we went into a shady area half way through and it gets a little dark. So if you can stomach it check it out!
Regardless, the surf wake drastically improved with the use of the wake gate, I was able to surf 12-15 feet back, and in the begining I was able to recover from over 15ft back which has neeeever happened before, but there are a few changes I could make to improve it further going forward. Now lets see if I can upload the video, I had to post it to Youtube to do so.


http://youtu.be/Etd_oMHlln8

Kma4444
08-29-2014, 08:19 PM
What the H%$l is he thinking with the camera!??!?!?!?!?:p

Looks like good fun

devovino
08-30-2014, 08:16 PM
What the H%$l is he thinking with the camera!??!?!?!?!?:p

Looks like good fun

Yeah I must agree, the video was a little tough to watch, shipmate must have had a few to many! I think at one point I got some vertigo watching it!! However, my wife was able to fix it being a computer Guru and using one of her programs so if I can I will post it here and drop the old one, make it a little more palatable. Its actually interesting to watch for me seeing my self surf, the little things like shifting my weight back or forth to change position on the wake, or moving my feet around to also change the direction of the board, all pretty much subconsciously... Kinda a throw back to my Doheny days and learning to surf in the Pacific Ocean, miss those days!

http://youtu.be/IMbErDnh4mM

Smitty40s
04-02-2015, 12:20 PM
How much ballast are you running in your saltare

devovino
04-19-2015, 02:38 PM
How much ballast are you running in your saltare

Sorry been away doing other stuff for a bit. I believe this day I was running 300 rear locker, I have 800 surf side, and two 250 on the rear bench seat. The trick this day was I had tried out my DIY "wake shaper" and it made a huge difference. I molded it much the same as CornRickey's and I was able to run way less weight, the wave was a lot cleaner and longer, I could recover form 15+ feet back, good day!

Ruzzty
04-19-2015, 05:46 PM
Hi- ok so I have a Saltare- and we totally want to take up wake surfing this season. Can you help me?

* what kind of, how much weight (which side) and where did you install your fat sacks?
*whats a wake gate? Where did you get it? and what size for saltare?
* what size board do we need- for kids 9-19? And me- 230 lbs/ 5'11?

Sorry for so many questions but you have it figured out for a Saltare and I'm racking my nuts trying to search the web for specifications for this boat.. Any help would be very greatly appreciated brada-!!

korey
08-04-2015, 11:59 AM
Just came to this thread to add what I have learned. I have been playing with my Saltare dialing in the surf wake.

I am currently running a 450lb bag in the rear locker, a 550lb bag in the floor in the space behind the motor box (conforming to the trapezoidal shape, so probably not fully filling), and an old Launch Pad "couch" on the surf size (in this case starboard) that I think weight about 800-1000lb. I have also added a "little bit better than home made" (I have a $10M/year machine shop at my disposal) wake shaping device to the opposite side of the swim platform to help clean things up. The wake was respectable with weight alone when set up on the port side of the boat, but it was really washed out on the starboard side before the wake shaper.

My wake shaper design:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a8NuT_aCUxw/Vbe9hTm4iOI/AAAAAAAADmw/o3j1xVYWfJU/s981-Ic42/Capture.JPG

I'm playing with that design keeping the idea of marketing it on a small scale in mind. The idea is to give it enough degrees of freedom to accommodate a wide range of old boats. it does look like Mission Boat Gear (http://www.missionboatgear.com/) is well ahead of me, and that is a good thing, because I really don't want to mess with this much further than my own interests.

Here is a relatively crappy cell phone video from last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQsVaypdKE&feature=youtu.be
Please excuse the mid ride pant's check ;-)

korey
08-04-2015, 01:28 PM
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll7/TrBlazer/River-4473_zpsuajcviu2.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll7/TrBlazer/River-4478_zpsenthwsjn.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll7/TrBlazer/River-4482_zps2bcy6vgf.jpg

wotan2525
08-04-2015, 04:20 PM
You guys are having better luck than I've ever had with the goofy wave - but it's good to know that it's possible with just a little more weight!

Korey -- When you going to send me one of those gates for me to try out? ;))

korey
08-04-2015, 04:33 PM
When I pulled the gate off to head home last night I hopped up to speed just to see what it looked like with all other conditions identical (well, I guess with +1 person in the boat since no one was riding), and the wake was complete garbage. I'm astonished at how well the first iteration of my gate worked!

After watching how the water flowed around the plate from behind the boat, I'm more interested in playing with a plate that is more perpendicular to the flow of the water. The 2014 Moomba Mojo that I spent a ton of time behind last summer had their first "Flow" system that was very simple, but affective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnOYHrtsydE

skiman_61
08-05-2015, 11:15 AM
Thanks for sharing.

devovino
08-10-2015, 08:34 PM
Wow, it looks like this thread came back to life! Where there is the will there is the way, nice wake!

jasun
08-20-2015, 07:56 AM
Korey,

Any luck reproducing the wake system?

Was thinking about one for my Salt.
Im using a fiberglass swim deck though.

devovino
08-21-2015, 09:55 PM
When I pulled the gate off to head home last night I hopped up to speed just to see what it looked like with all other conditions identical (well, I guess with +1 person in the boat since no one was riding), and the wake was complete garbage. I'm astonished at how well the first iteration of my gate worked!

After watching how the water flowed around the plate from behind the boat, I'm more interested in playing with a plate that is more perpendicular to the flow of the water. The 2014 Moomba Mojo that I spent a ton of time behind last summer had their first "Flow" system that was very simple, but affective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnOYHrtsydE

Looking back at this wake that day, two things came to mind- I was beat after surfing all day, and this run was when I finally went ropeless, thigh burner. 2ndly', I just noticed how much my swim step dug into the wake!! I can see the spray from it dragging on the face of the wake- you can see the spray and the face just chundered out...

As to what was said above about the plate being more perpendicular to the wake more, my "wake gate" was just resting against the side of the swim step, and parallel with it. I have since bought a turn buckle that will make it at least protrude to 25-30 degrees. I have to get out and try it before it gets to late...... Been a busy summer, lakes been super green with Algae, all my buddie sare having kids or on a wildland fire WA/OR are being burned up blah blah, .... gotta get er done!