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lively
05-27-2015, 12:50 AM
HELLO GUYS ,

I am seriously thinking about installing a wake plate . ive seen the manual one that is "supposed" to be on mine but isnt.
i have been looking at the lenco electric ones but they come with single rams , my questions are:

1. do you think a single ram would be enough ?

2. most id not all are "edge" mounted on a hinge from the back of the transom .. how much should the TAB / wake plate go down ?

3. is having one going to do anything positive for my sunsport other than make me spend money ?

thanks , lively

Jetlink
05-27-2015, 12:58 AM
1. Does your transom have the two holes originally used for the multi-sport plate? I'll post pics of mine here in a minute.

2. The permanently fixed one was only supposed to move about 1/4 of an inch if I recall correctly. The surface area of the plate will dictate how much travel/deflection you require.

3. It's a boat, of course you're going to spend money on it.

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lively
05-27-2015, 01:27 AM
1. Does your transom have the two holes originally used for the multi-sport plate? I'll post pics of mine here in a minute.

2. The permanently fixed one was only supposed to move about 1/4 of an inch if I recall correctly. The surface area of the plate will dictate how much travel/deflection you require.

3. It's a boat, of course you're going to spend money on it.

15822

no holes on back of transom they were filled in , the bottom of the hull had the plate screw hole though . i want the electrical or hydro style , but i just wanted to see if anyone has them on the older boats

leetudor
05-27-2015, 06:47 AM
The only reason for it is to push the bow down and make the wake smaller.

Zim
05-27-2015, 04:14 PM
The only reason for it is to push the bow down and make the wake smaller.

Not true.

I'd say it's definitely worth the upgrade. They help plane the boat out when you have lots of weight, they help shape surf/wakeboard/slalom wakes, they help in rough water to control if you want to ride high or stuff the bow in the waves to cut through them, they help eliminate porpoising... totally worth it.

I don't have an old boat, but I can tell you mine has 2 rams on it. When in the "down" position, it doesn't go down at too much of an angle. It is also mounted on a hinge on the transom. These pictures show it in "up" position.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/IMG_3348_zps8da3e92a.jpg (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/zimstang/media/IMG_3348_zps8da3e92a.jpg.html)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/IMG_3346_zpsd5acd0fe.jpg (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/zimstang/media/IMG_3346_zpsd5acd0fe.jpg.html)

leetudor
05-27-2015, 05:18 PM
Not true.

I'd say it's definitely worth the upgrade. They help plane the boat out when you have lots of weight, they help shape surf/wakeboard/slalom wakes, they help in rough water to control if you want to ride high or stuff the bow in the waves to cut through them, they help eliminate porpoising... totally worth it.


Exactly what I said it would do, Push the bow down and make the wake smaller. His boat has a hook in the hull and is not going to get more bow rise that he has now.

lively
05-27-2015, 05:38 PM
Not true.

I'd say it's definitely worth the upgrade. They help plane the boat out when you have lots of weight, they help shape surf/wakeboard/slalom wakes, they help in rough water to control if you want to ride high or stuff the bow in the waves to cut through them, they help eliminate porpoising... totally worth it.

I don't have an old boat, but I can tell you mine has 2 rams on it. When in the "down" position, it doesn't go down at too much of an angle. It is also mounted on a hinge on the transom. These pictures show it in "up" position.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/IMG_3348_zps8da3e92a.jpg (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/zimstang/media/IMG_3348_zps8da3e92a.jpg.html)

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/IMG_3346_zpsd5acd0fe.jpg (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/zimstang/media/IMG_3346_zpsd5acd0fe.jpg.html)

it seems that the tab is fastened to the underside of the hull ? can you tak more pics for me ? closer ?

Zim
05-27-2015, 05:40 PM
I wont be at my boat until this weekend, but if I remember I'll try to take more. If your hull has a hook as leetudor said, you likely can't mount that to the bottom. Pretty sure my boat has a groove in the hull that's designed to have the plate attach to it there.

ngavchris
05-27-2015, 09:35 PM
Definitely a plus to add one. I don't adjust mine everyday; however, if we are on the lake on a rougher day, I always lower the bow down to cut through the waves. Makes the ride so much better. The only problem with the front down is that with extra people in the bow I have to watch for water over the front. If I raise the front up it increases my wake pretty dramatically. Mine is manual and is not hinged. I think I would love having it automated, but wouldn't spend the money to do that on mine.

leetudor
05-27-2015, 09:55 PM
This is a back mount instead of a bottom mount.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UV3IXbUJz9c/VWZ0xJukcLI/AAAAAAAAKlQ/hvol-OVC6rc/w579-h553-no/Tige%25270424vBlackRedRear.jpg

lively
05-27-2015, 11:44 PM
I wont be at my boat until this weekend, but if I remember I'll try to take more. If your hull has a hook as leetudor said, you likely can't mount that to the bottom. Pretty sure my boat has a groove in the hull that's designed to have the plate attach to it there.

in 86 the manual one was attached at the bottom and when rebuilt the stringers/ deck i replaced and added wood / glass to the bottom behind my rudder and also to the transom for one day adding a wake tab ,

my real issue is price for tabs with 2 rams is 2x much as kit with 1 .. but total stroke and ram length is another question . I mean how much is too much ect...


what length x width tab are installed ? 12x9 ? 12x12? I plan to add it soon just have to clean some ?'s up

lively
05-27-2015, 11:46 PM
This is a back mount instead of a bottom mount.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UV3IXbUJz9c/VWZ0xJukcLI/AAAAAAAAKlQ/hvol-OVC6rc/w579-h553-no/Tige%25270424vBlackRedRear.jpg see that one has only 1 ram and looks to be edge mounted .. i bet i could get away with 1 ?

Zim
05-27-2015, 11:52 PM
I'm sure 1 would be fine. Keep in mind with 1 on there, access to your drain plug will be tough. Hell, its tough with 2 rams.

lively
05-28-2015, 12:00 AM
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I'm sure 1 would be fine. Keep in mind with 1 on there, access to your drain plug will be tough. Hell, its tough with 2 rams. yes your right ! damn , the platform bracket is right there too , ill have to go with two rams probably

Cooose
03-12-2017, 09:57 PM
Lively - curious what you decided to go with as far as retrofitting your wake plate?

lively
03-13-2017, 12:19 AM
Lively - curious what you decided to go with as far as retrofitting your wake plate?

I haven't yet , I had to spend $ money on repower , but this summer I plan to use the 12x12 two ram electric from Bennet . It's cheap , simple and will let me know what are the benefits without a huge hole in the wallet


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Cooose
03-13-2017, 10:27 AM
So you are planning to move from under Hull mounting to transom mounting, or fabbing hinges or something up to keep the under Hull mounting of the plate?

lively
03-13-2017, 10:58 AM
So you are planning to move from under Hull mounting to transom mounting, or fabbing hinges or something up to keep the under Hull mounting of the plate?

Bennet has one that mounts around the drain plug and has a 2" hinge , and I have reinforced laminated wood when I did my floor to when I did plan to install , look around they have several sizes . But the stock cavitation plate Supra had was 12x11 I believe , so 12x12 should work fine .

Hydro systems are $$$ and electric is $



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