New 2018 Supra Boat

[adamantium]

Hi, I'm new to the forum and am pursuing a 2018 Supra boat, looking to purchase during boat show season. Three questions:

1) How has resale been for those of you who have sold your Supra?
2) What do you typically see as discount off MSRP (generally speaking)? Ie, MSRP on Supra's website for an SA or SL well loaded is around $150K. What's realistic and how do I ensure I'm getting a fair offer?
3) How has reliability been? I know Supra builds far fewer for purposes of quality. Does that strategy hold true?

[MJHKnox]

Hi, I'm new to the forum and am pursuing a 2018 Supra boat, looking to purchase during boat show season. Three questions:

1) How has resale been for those of you who have sold your Supra?
2) What do you typically see as discount off MSRP (generally speaking)? Ie, MSRP on Supra's website for an SA or SL well loaded is around $150K. What's realistic and how do I ensure I'm getting a fair offer?
3) How has reliability been? I know Supra builds far fewer for purposes of quality. Does that strategy hold true?

Might want to post this on the Moomba Forum. More of the newer SC boat owners are over there. Might get a faster response. There are a few that check in on this site.

Hard to compare MSRP and Boat show pricing b/c a lot have to do with how many boxes are checked on options and what that dealer has for pricing. Usually the boat show boats are ‘decked-out’.

I thought the SAs and SLs were around 135ish.

The Facebook page is also good.




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[Mischief IV]

The SL they had at the Atlanta Boat show was very nice. It retailed at MSRP for $148,085

The discounts during boat show totaled $25,407

Your drive out the door price with new SL would be $122,678. Boat show price may vary from dealer to dealer.

I would not buy one of these boats at MSRP. Probably wouldn't buy at show price either but that is a different thread. I have some pics I can post later.

As far as resale, I think the price of the new ones are keeping the price of 10-13 year old boats high. I have scanned the internet a lot the last few weeks and can't believe what some people think their boat is worth with 850 hours on the clock. Absurd pricing for a used boat.

[4alkings]

Hi, I'm new to the forum and am pursuing a 2018 Supra boat, looking to purchase during boat show season. Three questions:

1) How has resale been for those of you who have sold your Supra?
2) What do you typically see as discount off MSRP (generally speaking)? Ie, MSRP on Supra's website for an SA or SL well loaded is around $150K. What's realistic and how do I ensure I'm getting a fair offer?
3) How has reliability been? I know Supra builds far fewer for purposes of quality. Does that strategy hold true?

I have not resold a boat, but have purchased a 4 year old Supra that original msrp was around 70k. I purchased that boat for 48k with 210hrs.

I shopped new boats some before I purchased my current boat and was getting offers for boats that were 130k msrp for mid 90k.

My now 7 year old Supra has been extremely reliable. Very few issues since I've owned it and nothing the makes me dislike it. Build quality is quite solid. Care in operation and maintenance make a tremendous difference in how well a boat ages. Wiping it down, keeping it out of the weather, wax and polish, and proper storage are all important factors. And when you drop that much change on a boat you really should be motivated to treat it like a valuable possession.

Just my $.02.

[adamantium]

Thanks for the replies, helpful. Sounds like 25-30K off should be expected on a well optioned boat.

Mischief IV why would you not buy at show price?

[MJHKnox]

Options start to add up fast. 440 motor is 6k, non skid floors are 800, steering wheel controls 800, surf pipe 800, upgraded racks 3k, etc etc. There is 10k right there.

A walk in the to the dealer price might be X.

A boat show price will the lower, but they still have room. If you cannot get the price to drop that much at the boat show price, to can have the dealer try to throw some options in.

Both are not close to MSRP.

If you are ready to buy, the boat shows will deal b/c they are looking to sell that boat and get another build going. Supra also has buyer options to buy there. The is a thread on this.

A new build works a little different b/v of build dates and where your dealer fits into that schedule.

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[MJHKnox]

The SL they had at the Atlanta Boat show was very nice. It retailed at MSRP for $148,085

The discounts during boat show totaled $25,407

Your drive out the door price with new SL would be $122,678. Boat show price may vary from dealer to dealer. .

$122 sounds ballpark. How much do you think that would drop? 5k?

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[Mischief IV]

Thanks for the replies, helpful. Sounds like 25-30K off should be expected on a well optioned boat.

Mischief IV why would you not buy at show price?

Here are some pics of the SL I was talking about. It was well optioned. I have to admit that I am no fan of the 2 letter Supra boats. Not a fan of pickle forks. However, after reading about this boat, watching a great review on it, and then getting to personally talk to Trevor Hansen about it for 20 min, I kinda came around to the new SL by Supra. (hard tank ballast, power tower, transom surf board storage, autowake, and steering wheels controls to name a few reasons)

To answer the question above as to why I would not buy even at show price...depreciation value.

There is a steep drop in value the first year. Typically, you can look at the MSRP of a new boat, then knock off around 25-35%. Thats what you'll loose the first year. Understanding that no one really buys at full MSRP, you can add in X% into the discounted purchase % to calculate a fairly decent resell price for the next year. Then around 5% per year for the next 2-3 years. Put down a hefty down payment if you are financing (15-20%), and you should NOT be under water if you sell in 5 years with 12 year financing. You should essentially be renting the boat for 5 years. Now, if you go with the 15 year financing, and opt to put down the minimum, you'll be upside down and should have a 10k contingency if you plan to sell at 5 years. More if you plan to sell sooner (due to the steep initial drop off).

The best would be to look into buying a 3 year old boat if your not concerned with having the benefits of custom ordering a boat to exactly what you want with the warranty you want. If you look at boat values, the resell values start to flatten off around years 4, 5, and 6.

Also, what you lose depends on how you take care of your boat, how many hours are on it, what options you have, and what kind of a deal you got on the front end.

All boats depreciate. There's no getting around that and with that being said, I cannot think of another way that I could spend my money and get more enjoyment out of it. My discretionary income will not allow a $125k purchase for just one boat. If it could, I don't even think I would. I've been happy buying 2-3 year old cars, trucks and boats over the years to much success. If you can afford it, then ignore my words. For those that don't live on the water or use it often like I do, I think it would be very hard to justify that huge expense.
I bought my 242 with 4 years of age and 40 hours on the motor clock. Not sure I got as good a deal as 4alkings, but I did really well and happy with what I paid. I put over 100 hours on it this past summer and she looks like a proper Supra. Guess I'll have to wait 4 -5 years to see what the SL price will be if it ever comes to wanting a newer model.

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[Mischief IV]

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[Mischief IV]

If you want to see what other manufacturers and/ or dealers are discounting, here ya go!

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[Mischief IV]

If you want to see what other manufacturers and/ or dealers are discounting, here ya go!

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and finally...

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[adamantium]

Wow, thank you! Huge help! Interesting that the other manufacturers are around 22% off and Supra is only 17.5%. My research across multiple forums states that 15% off is not a great deal, 20% is a good deal, and 25% off is a great deal, with dealer cost usually around 30-35% off. Interested if you all would agree.

Mischief IV, 100% agree on buying a boat ~3 years old for boats and cars. It has served me well. That said, the SL is a HOT boat, for the reasons you noted and more. IF it delivers as advertised, it could be a G23 killer (which was my original pursuit). For me mainly because you can forget skiing with a G23 and price. Very interested to see if autowake 2 actually does what they say it will. I’m coming from a 2010 MC and it seems anything I’d want to upgrade to would be minimum 90K. Surfing is exploding and the surf systems keep getting more refined and better. I feel like the boats are in a transition period and the SL appears to be a pretty big leap on tech. The local Supra dealer told me he’s seeing a $1500 drop in price per year (which I don’t believe), the local Malibu dealer stated about $3K per year depreciation which I think is more realistic. If I can hit 22-25% off on the SL personally I’d think it’s worth it. Not as good of a deal as buying used, but I want to be one and done on this next boat and keep it for a long time (at least that’s the plan for now).


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[adamantium]

Also, for those interested, I’ve spent the last 9 months doing exhaustive research and have test driven the G23, GS22, 23LSV, 22VLX (diamond hull) SA450, and tige RZX2. I got the testing down to a science and focused on the following: wakes (all 3), ride (chop, bow rise, handling, etc), helm, and cabin amenities. The net for my needs was that the GS22 IMO was the best crossover and the G23 the best wale boat. The SA had my attention though. Then the SL came out. Crazy that I’d consider buying it without testing, but based on some really positive early reviews and my experience on a 17 SA, its a possibility.


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[Mischief IV]

Well, good luck in the search. Sounds like you've been doing your homework and will make the correct decision for you. They were close to 50 point margins way back in the day. Not sure what they are now. I think if you can get them 25%, then do it. I have a 35 year old Supra so I believe I'm in for the long haul with the 242 as well and very happy with the wake vs. price factor. I thought about a Malibu for a spell, but then came to my senses.

Again, if I had it to spend, I would probably pull the trigger for a new SL. They kept some things traditional on it and the lines are smooth, much better than the Optimus Prime Mastercrafts. I would probably get it without the metal flake. I think the auto wake will be great if you have to surf with lots of choppy water. Looking forward to seeing some on the lake maybe one day. Looks bigger than my 24 footer and an appropriate size for most garages. Keep us posted.

[adamantium]

Will do for sure. I’ll know this spring if I’m pulling the trigger or not. Agree on the MCs, and that’s coming from an MC fan boy. I just don’t like the direction they are going and the innovation IMO has not kept up with the other manufacturers in the last 3 years. I think Supra has been making big strides. Btw, if I buy, it will have blue metal flake :). I’ve always wanted that.


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