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I need a new set up in mine, Im ready to buy new fat sacs and need help? Whats your setup?
89' Supra Comp/closed bow.
old setup: 550's eng/400rear/100 front=1600lbs great wake!
wanted more floor space so I tried this one
new setup:
750 rear locker/400 nose=1150 lbs Not enough weight, plenty of floor space. Wake not tall enough or great for beginers.
no pics of mine.
mapleleaf
10-21-2009, 07:14 PM
Dude 16 hunnie in a comp....you got stones I'll give ya that......I can bury my rubrail in the back with a 750 sac and 2 guys......weighting the nose is too gnarly for me, openbow submarine jam!!!!!
Forgot to mention my wife drives it weighted...sweeet! Shes sitting beside me with her broken rib again! Dropped off a 3' wake and face planted off a Malibu weighted with 3k-4k and 11 people in the boat. my knees hurt till wed! LOL!
87SunSportMikeyD
10-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Ok here we go:
350lb sac x2 in rear
400lb sac x2 in bow
100lbs dead weight in rear (will add more)
1600lbs total for wakeboarding
With people in the rear it is balanced pretty well.
Plumbed to the raw water intake and one reversable simer pump. No temp issues ever. I open two sacs at a time for filling or draining with hand valves. It could be upgraded by adding another pump and leaving the valves open all the time. No overflow/vent line yet although I have the hardware.
For surfing we drain the bow drivers side sac and then place a 750 on the port side floor.
350x2rear + 400bow + 750floor + 100lead = 1950 but that is slammed and we usually run less (1600 or so)because of 4- 6 person crew weight.
Rear weight
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3490/medium/603714.jpg
Locker sack
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3490/medium/603712.jpg
Bow sacs. The boat has enough open bow storage to EAT up these sacs and sill have tons of bow storage. These are 400lb sacs!
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3486/medium/20090618_0681.JPG
Pump setup
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3490/medium/603700.jpg
87SunSportMikeyD
10-22-2009, 01:24 PM
Darkside wave at the cabin notice the fear in his eyes
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3490/medium/658098.jpg
Regular wave but it looks a little washy here not sure why but super tall and steep pocket is at least 20' long
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/medium/609102.jpg
Wakeboard wake but this is more average, not slammed but plenty for basic inverts.
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3486/medium/wDCP_6316.jpg
87SunSportMikeyD
10-22-2009, 01:24 PM
Slumped
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3486/medium/wDCP_6236.jpg
Here's the baby
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3486/medium/20090617_0712.JPG
Too many pics??
Here is my main gallery with 250 pics it has been viewed over 125,000 times :)
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/showgallery.php/ppuser/35518/cat/500
Mikey...love the boat girl album. Your boat pic's look great too! LOL!
Mikey, will your pumps fill and drain? Reversible? Or do you have a extra pump to drain?
87SunSportMikeyD
10-22-2009, 03:33 PM
hehe thanks I couldn't resist. Yep these are reversable pumps. One pump fills and drains this entire setup. About 5 mins per sac.
Simer: reversable, $70, but loud and draws more power and not as fast but more pressure
Aerator: one-way, but $30, silent, draws less power, faster
So you like the aerator's best?
87SunSportMikeyD
10-22-2009, 03:53 PM
Yeah in retrospect they seem to be better. I didn't want to wire and find room for double the pumps, but there are a couple of 'tricky' ways to mount them so that space is not an issue. I dunno it depends on how advanced you want your system to be.
There are lots of 'ifs'. Like aerators dont stop the flow of water when you turn them off (Simers do). So if you turn the pump off, you usually need some sort of master valve to turn unless you use fmans trick of using one-way anti-syphon valves run up high on the gunnels to stop the sacs from draining.
In general it can get tougher if you want more speed. You would need extra water intake holes and/or a manifold. If you increase speed, it is also important to have overflow lines so you cant blow a sac. The more I think about ballast the more complicated it gets in my head...
But ya know in this boat I really wanted a cheaper, simpler setup and the Simer really accomplished that task well. And it would be easy to add a 2nd one. They are not as fast as the Aerators, but much simpler with less pumps, less parts (ie swing check valves) and less plumbing. Just the fact that I did my system on one pump amazes me still. Good way to learn the ropes.
Come on guys, Im ready to buy some new sacs and need your help. Mikey what would you do??
87SunSportMikeyD
10-25-2009, 07:45 PM
How big is the space under your bow? If you want to make it super simple one simer and a hand valve on each sac will do you. Otherwise you would probably need two sets of aerators. You can use the raw water intake and/or one of the extra drain plugs in the floor of the bilge under the engine.
If you use one simer, only one or two sacs are open at a time for filling/draining. If you use two simers or four aerators, you would not need to turn hand valves on each sac.
I'm not sure, maybe you could use just two aerators and only open one sac at a time. You put one aerator right next to the other on the same line. Then when you get close to the sac, split the line into a y and run one end to the fill and one to drain. Put a one-way swing check valve on each side. Then when you fill the drain closes up and vice versa.
Its big. just picture yours but more shallow. It has a carpeted divider in the middle but Im going to take it out, there is alot of wasted dry space on the drivers side. Im thinking a playpen sac filled to 500-600 lbs and then my 550's beside the motor? that would get me back to 1500-1600 lbs but then my floor is gone again. Jet
87SunSportMikeyD
10-27-2009, 12:02 PM
Yeah but if it is like my bow space at all, you can fit two 400s and still have almost all the normal storage space. Big advantage... (even if you dont fill them up all the way 400s have a really nice shape for the space.
A lot of people remove the plastic tray under the rear ski locker/sunpad and put a big sac in there (have to make sure you aren't putting lots of pressure on the gas tank though).
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