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87SunSportMikeyD
01-27-2010, 05:20 PM
Just for fun contest! One pic, biggest wave wins. Your own personal definition of 'biggest wave'. :) Gotta get the new forum running! :)

I submit my darkside wave.

Picture posting code is (take out spaces)
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httpPictureURL is wherever you have your picture hosted

http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/6090921.jpg

ssmith
01-27-2010, 06:13 PM
Well, this was early in the learning curve but this is the best pic I could find. Not bad but I think we fine tuned it a bit more later in the season.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w126/scotties2006/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG00138-20090821-1526.jpg

docdrs
01-27-2010, 11:38 PM
Scottie, beam me up..........that thing looks massive.....your winning so far in my books, whats your set up? theres even a tube to ride in :)

KY Steve
01-28-2010, 09:22 AM
Not the best pic but it gives you the idea of the height.

It was my nephews first time.....reason for the tight rope.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/toolsail/Launch24/Wave.jpg

ssmith
01-28-2010, 01:27 PM
Scottie, beam me up..........that thing looks massive.....your winning so far in my books, whats your set up? theres even a tube to ride in :)

Thanks but I want BIGGER AND BETTER. I hope to improve it this season. However, last season it was super easy to free ride. I could get up on the board and by the time I had my trunks & vest adjusted the rope was useless... just toss it in and ride. The wake you see pictured is done with...

2005 Supra 21V
1050 lbs in the right rear
650 in the ski locker
wake plate 3/4 up
running 2800 rpm (approx 10.5-11mph)

I'm planning on more ballast overall this year (I'll have to tinker with it) and upgrading to the OJ wakeboard prop 14.25x14.5. We'll have to see how it goes.

87SunSportMikeyD
01-28-2010, 02:03 PM
No weight up front? I personally would say it would work a lot better in the bow pushed to one side versus in the center belly ski locker... Once I start to get more than 1300lb in rear, the wave pushes you into the boat too much. It is a real short pocket unless you add 3-400 in the bow.

docdrs
01-28-2010, 07:18 PM
scottie , what bag do you have in your right rear?

ssmith
01-28-2010, 10:58 PM
Mikey,

I don't run up front weight. I tried one day but it required stealing from the rear and was not satisfied....i need more. I do want weight in the front to produce a longer pocket even though the one we have is pretty good.

Doc,

I have the factory 250lb integrated in the right rear and then I have room to place a 400lb bag directly in front of it, equals 650lbs. I then have another 400lb bag sitting on the seat in the right rear corner above them. Then there is the 650lb integrated bag in the ski locker. Toward the end of the season, I was told to fill both right and left factory 250lb bags and then add more wt to the surf side...this allows the max amount of water displacement to occur with available ballast weight. I tried this and it did improve the wake. To quote what I was told, "First sink the whole boat and then add additional weight to your surf side".

Today, I purchased someones factory integrated 400lb bags for left and right lockers to replace my 250lb bags. So, I'll gain 300lbs of ballast over last seasons weight with this simple change.

My initial attempts will be to fill both right and left 400lb bags, add one 400lb bag to the surf side locker (stack it), fill the 650lb ski locker bag and take my other 400lb bag and put at the bow. This will give me a total of 2250lbs. I hope this configuration will give me what I'm looking for. Plus changing the prop. Oh, and there is usually a 180-220lb adult on the sundeck (surf side).

iwakeboard
01-29-2010, 09:23 AM
http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs206.snc1/7332_727517981065_9403561_42382913_3691262_n.jpg

TayTay
02-01-2010, 02:09 AM
This was my third time going. The wave seemed decent. I haven't surfed behind any other boats so I dont have a lot to compare too.


http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k301/TaylorAR/Boat/DSC07073.jpg

87SunSportMikeyD
02-01-2010, 01:55 PM
If your wave is thigh high that is a pretty good medium sized wave. Waist-to-belly-button is above average and I have not personally seen the bigger ones but they look monsterous!

I agree you should weight the whole rear of the boat and then weight the surf side some more. Otherwise you else up tipping the boat a lot but the wave isn't that large overall (need to displace more).

I weight mine with 500 across the rear, then add 700lb minimum to the surf-side and its pretty good.

For me personally, my wave really gets a lot longer and better shaped when I add about 300lbs to the bow. HOWEVER, the bow sac is pushed all the way to one side up against the hull (as opposed as in the center of the bow). It is also pushed all the way towards the main cabin as it will go (as opposed to being pushed up towards the nose).

Since everyone agrees Supras take above-average belly weight, I do think it's a bit odd more people dont use ANY bow weight for surfing. You have to get it placed just right but I think it helps.

ScottnAz
03-11-2010, 10:21 PM
Couldn't decide between these 2 pictures.
05' 22ssv with just a bit of weight. :wink:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/PICT0041.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/ICT0063.jpg

cowboy4
03-20-2010, 10:05 AM
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/cowwboy4/lake/7132_1268780280074_1246839281_30837.jpg
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/cowwboy4/lake/DSC01068.jpg

ScottnAz
04-02-2010, 01:16 PM
Nice pics, keep them coming

Found a picture of the port side
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/portsidewave.jpg

87SunSportMikeyD
04-02-2010, 03:00 PM
Scott - the more i look at your top pic on this page, the bigger it gets!! And your port side pic is just downright scary you should name it Jaws hehe! What board is that?

ScottnAz
04-02-2010, 07:26 PM
thanks Mikey :D
the board is the CWB RAZR

http://www.wakeworld.com/products/images/products/detail_17_50_27_3978.jpg
2008 CWB Razr 5'0"
New for '08 the Razr features seamless full hand wrapped surfboard construction. Light, thick and strong this board flies on the wake. Clean surfboard design and function with flat rocker and a single concave hull.
Length: 152.40 cm/59 in
Mid Width: 52.07 cm/20 in
Weight: 3 kg/7.90 lbs
Rocker: 5.71 cm/2 in
Tail Rocker: 0.63 cm/0 in
Skill Level: Intermediate
Construction: Surf-core: Hand-shaped core wrapped in hand-laid fiberglass.
Fin Configuration: Three 1.68" fiberglass Chicklet fins on the tail and one 0.75" fin on the nose
Recommended Weight Range: One size fits all
Surface: EVA Foam
Thickness: 3.50 cm/1 in
MSRP: $379.99 USD
Company Website: CWBWakeboards.com

98outback
04-06-2010, 09:23 PM
Scott

How are you waiting your boat? I have the exact same hull and I cant get my wake that nice.

sybrmike
04-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Hey Cowboy,
Nice wake - how are you weighted? (I've got the same hull).
Check your pm re the pylon.

Scott,
That last pic looks like a post Richter scale 8 earthquake tsunami!

Razzman
04-07-2010, 11:25 AM
'07 Moomba LSV, 750 surfside, 4 peeps, Shred Stixx JaMako, 10.5-11 mph

ScottnAz
04-07-2010, 11:25 AM
I've played around with the weight a lot over the last couple seasons, and think it's pretty dialed in. Some of the bags don't fill to capacity due to compartment restraints, but I generally fill the bags until they start spitting out the side of the boat.

1200 lb GG sac in the center ski locker (probably only fills to ~900-1000)
400 lb sac sitting in walk-through area (old rear sac)
750 lb in surf side rear locker (probably only fills to ~650-700)
~700 lb on surf side rear seat and sunpad (old center sac)
Wakeplate is usually 50%, sometimes 25%
Speed is generally 10.7, but ranges from 10.5-11.2 depending on weight and wave

This setup has been very good. I can run this setup with my family (wife, 6yr & 15yr old daughters), and let them sit wherever they feel comfortable in the boat. Makes for a more pleasant family outing, yet, I still get a great wave. The wave gets larger when I'm with my crew of buddies, cause they'll use the 700 lb rear surf side bag as a lounge chair, and that adds another 175-220 lbs. Here's a picture of the setup from late last season.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/surferview-1.jpg

98outback
04-07-2010, 11:37 AM
Thanks

I am going to swap my setup some. I have the 750's in each rear locker and then the stock 600 center bag. I use the old stock 400's that came with the boat. I usually fill the center and the surfside rear and then put 1 of the 400's in the bow on the surf side. I am going to upgrade my center bag for sure and play around with it. Thanks again.

klewis
04-10-2010, 12:58 AM
750lb stock bag in the left rear
250lb sumo sac in the left side mid storage
400lb stock bag in the front
Wake plate all the way up

Also I'm 6'2" for reference.

How do you stack the bags in the rear locker without putting pressure on the lower one that causes it to empty out the overflow? If I could figure that out I could run more weight on that side and a small amount of weight on the right side to sink her down overall.

Here's what I've got, it's not bad for the little bit of weight I'm running, could be bigger though:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff120/klewis114/DSC_4663.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff120/klewis114/DSC_4661.jpg

dickboxers
04-12-2010, 10:11 PM
Looks like I will have a fat sac project in the future.

mapleleaf
04-12-2010, 10:29 PM
Looks like I will have a fat sac project in the future.

Need more pics of that interior....looks great, who did it????

dickboxers
04-12-2010, 10:36 PM
The guy i bought it from had it done. He said took them a long time, but it looks like it was worth it. He had them copy a malibu pattern and changed the logo's. This is the only one i have on my computer that shows it.

87SunSportMikeyD
04-13-2010, 11:53 AM
DB how are you weighting it in the above pic? Really I THINk all you would need to get started would be about 700lbs on the port side floor. That wave looks okay for size but if you can clean it up some, it should be workable. Not sure how u have it set up now but maybe needs more list or more across the back, speed should be between 10.5-12, a little faster might clean it up.

dickboxers
04-15-2010, 08:51 AM
The only wieght in that picture is from people and my cooler. I got rid of the 2 350lb's and am thinking about how i can fit 1 750lb sac in the boat. Might be a while since I just put the speakers on the tower. I took it to an upholtry guy yesterday to get a quote on a cover for the top of my tower. I'll have to let my funds replenish for the sac project.

87SunSportMikeyD
04-15-2010, 10:32 AM
Lookin good!!!! DO you still have the 350 sacs? Try stacking 'em in that corner to see how it handles the weight

wotan2525
04-27-2010, 05:03 PM
I don't run any weight in the front. ~1800lbs as far back and to the port as possible. Going for more weight this year. This is with the wakeplate even -- if I put it down a hair I can get the pocket stretched out a little more. I'm a fat guy (~220lbs) and I ride small boards so I need all the push I can get. Willing to sacrifice a little bit of length to get there.

flyboywakesurf
04-30-2010, 06:29 PM
The camera angle distorts it some, but it's not bad.

iwakeboard
05-01-2010, 08:52 PM
some sick photos flyboy

ssmith
05-01-2010, 11:56 PM
Flyboy,

THATS CRAZY!

ScottnAz
05-02-2010, 07:02 PM
Nice pictures, as always, James http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/smiles_26.gif
I assume that's the new Flyboy Signature line of surfboards you're riding?

MAHARDY8033
05-04-2010, 10:55 PM
I will say im not in the running for the biggest Supra wave as some of these pics are from our 38' Sea Ray Sun Dancer and some pics are from OWC (Orlando Watersports Complex)!! But since I started looking for a boat to use in NY on the lake's and with Mikey's post and pics I went with Supra! So will be posting my Supra Wave pics soon as the water gets warmer then 45*!!

Cheers

Brian

87SunSportMikeyD
05-05-2010, 05:33 PM
James those are awesome photos! What boat? That board is hella-dope. Any advice regarding technique to get air? Any chance it could happen on my inland surfer four-skim? :) THanks and hope you stop by often!

flyboywakesurf
05-07-2010, 03:25 PM
Thanks guys - yeah that's my new board brand, it finally hit production (yes!) :) There is a funny saying in the manufacturing side that if you get a phone call from a vendor/supplier/anyone that promised you something :) and they start that conversation with"dddddoooooooooooddddd" that translates into "it'll be another week before you get what I promised you." :)

87sunsport - the pintail on your 4skim is going to make it a challange, but it's not impossible. The biggest problem with the pintails is they sink when you push down on them. That's the actual purpose of the design with skimmers, so that when they land, the tail sinks and gives them extra stability - since they have such small fins. All well an good, except when you want to LEARN to get air.

You know what I would suggest? Practice doing ollies holding the rope. Don't start on your sacked out surf wake, try it holding the rope out in the flats - even try it with a wakeboard rope. The motion is the same once you're on the wake. It's pretty similar to ollie'ing your wakeboard, but of course you don't have bindings to help lift the front.

Keep working it until you can feel yourself catching air - you'll know because you'll fall repeatedly AND you'll hear the board slap back down. Then, keep pushing yourself - lifting the front foot higher and pushing down on the rear foot HARDER. Once you're able to do that out in the flats - sac the boat out and try it there - again, use the rope. The biggest problem with that move/transition is the timing - you want to ollie off the lip, most likely you'll do it too early...wait for itttttt.

Once you can do that pretty consistently, try it without the rope - and get tons of pictures because it's funny as hell the first few times.

ScottnAz
05-07-2010, 04:53 PM
That's a nice Ollie out in the flats flyboy.....

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2643&stc=1&d=1272247810

JoHNI_T
05-08-2010, 01:46 PM
That's a nice Ollie out in the flats flyboy.....

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2643&stc=1&d=1272247810

thats sweet,,,

good tips flyboy,, I will learn that ollie in the flats first.....

flyboywakesurf
05-09-2010, 08:47 AM
Thanks guys, I hope that helps and give me a shout if you need more tips.

I wanted to share a YouTube Video I just posted - it might help those looking to do surface 3's or aerials, but also about 3/4's of the way in, it shows a reverse - basically a surface 3 rotating in the other direction. :) You have to see it!

Video Link Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaxCEEVUjA0)

jaywidhalm
05-10-2010, 01:48 PM
I dig the video. Nice job!! Very impressive.

87SunSportMikeyD
05-12-2010, 11:21 AM
I can ollie in the flats about a foot high, pretty consistantly. I have yet to be able to transfer that to the wave. Never sure if I am suppossed to be ollieing just after I hit the wave, or if I want to ride up the wave, and then ollie off the top? Kinda confused on the technique of when to pop it.

Here is a 2min video of me from early last summer. We have since added more weight hehe! Riding with a rope so I can recover if needed. First minute is slashes and stalls but at the end I am trying to ollie off the wake. http://www.vimeo.com/5714688

James I cannot watch youtube at work so I'll hafta check the vid at home. Ever try hosting with Vimeo? :) Are you coming to surf Worlds this summer? It's on my home river in Minneapolis! I am thinking about signing up for some ride time behind that wall of a wave. Hope you keep stopping by here!

ScottnAz
05-14-2010, 08:39 PM
Nice ridin in the video Mikey.

Watch James in this short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_6Y5yqrDRI&feature=channel

Look at how he pumps off the top of the wave, then how hard he digs in at the bottom of the wave before shooting back up the face for the air.

I would suggest you get rid of the rope and practice. I used to practice with the rope, too, because I felt bad for my crew that they'd have to circle around to get me more often, but found that without the rope I had more use of that 2nd hand when working the wave and trying for airs, and it would also force me to learn how to pump and recover from further back on the wave. (not to mention, I'd always be thinking about where the slack in the rope was so it didn't get in the way instead of concentrating on my riding)

87SunSportMikeyD
05-17-2010, 05:43 PM
I usually warm up with the rope or try very-new tricks with the rope, otherwise I do not use it much. :) Here is the 2nd half of that run w/o any rope - but also w/o any ollies! hehe that was the only reason I posted the rope-run was to point out the ollies. http://www.vimeo.com/5713502

flyboywakesurf
05-17-2010, 07:17 PM
Yeah - we'll be at the WWSC, looing forward to being back in Minnesota. We used to ride the Lake Washington contest, but have missed the last few years. What was always so odd to me was the lack of fences! Out here in California we fence off our garbage cans to keep them from being stolen! :)

I do have a channel on Vimeo, check under Flyboywakesurf, that's the name where I posting everything now. Come say hello if you make the event!

ScottnAz
05-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Nice 3's Mikey!!!

Water Dog
05-20-2010, 10:41 AM
Gotta Love It!
1st time riders, ya their bodies are a little soar the next day -
But I always get the comment, "Why is my jaw so soar?"
We call it jaw fatigue - From SMILIN!!!

https://forum.supraboats.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2946&stc=1&d=1274366285

ScottnAz
05-20-2010, 10:59 AM
yep, jaw fatigue :)

Looking good, how do you have the boat weighted?

Mani
05-20-2010, 02:26 PM
Wow, the water looks clear as can be. What lake do you go to?

Water Dog
05-22-2010, 09:34 AM
Idaho Waters all the way up north to Coeur D'alene Lake. The clarity and color is like none else, makes for some beauty wave pics. If I remember we only had a few of us on the boat that day, a little bit of sac upfront, empty on the right and full 40 on the left at about 9.8. For what ever reason my boat doesn't take much to curve out a decent wave.

KG's Supra24
06-02-2010, 09:08 PM
I can't see your pic water dog

Here are a couple pics, think im getting closed to dialed in finally ...

ScottnAz
06-02-2010, 10:11 PM
Lookin pretty clean KG

KG's Supra24
06-02-2010, 10:22 PM
We kept referring back to the diagram you drew up of my wake in another thread.

"we just gotta get the yellow line up to the red line, I think we are gonna need more weight"

Ended with apprx 300 nonsurfside, 1300ish rearsurfside, 1150 playpen.

87SunSportMikeyD
06-03-2010, 11:42 AM
THat is a very clean wave! Good job fixin it up!! That seems like a LOT of bow weight for surfing.

batmobil
06-03-2010, 04:44 PM
http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz264/dougalles/DSCF4501.jpg

http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz264/dougalles/DSCF4476-1.jpg

06 21v
400 both rear lockers
650 up front
400 on surf side rear seat
250 on surf side in bow
11.2mph wake plate all the way DOWN

Unfortunately for me, I get a better wave on starboard side.

JoHNI_T
06-05-2010, 01:23 PM
stock set up,,, more pics to come later with the 1100#s, she sits at the rub rail now, its a beautiful site.

3080

3081

3082

3084

3085

blaze5012
06-06-2010, 08:10 PM
I want to see some pictures of the boat with the water at the rail!
________
Yamaha IT200 (http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Yamaha_IT200)

ScottnAz
06-07-2010, 12:02 AM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/lake%20pictures/Video4100006-15.jpg

I was a little concerned this weekend because I had it up over the gas cap at times. Hopefully I have a tight sealing cap gasket....

KG's Supra24
06-07-2010, 12:17 AM
How are you taking your pics from that angle? Are you getting a tube out there or doing it while surfing? The quality looks decent so that seems like a scary risk.

ScottnAz
06-07-2010, 12:40 AM
Doing it while surfing.
This picture is taken with a SeaLife underwater camera we bought a couple years ago for some snorkleing. It takes some nice pictures.
http://www.sealife-cameras.com/cameras/reefmaster_mini.html

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/woodwrangler/surferview-1.jpg

The recent picture I just posted from behind the boat is actually a still image from a flip video camera in an underwater case. http://store.theflip.com/en-us/products/UltraHD.aspx I'm hoping to post a video I shot while surfing in the coming days.

The Flip is really nice, but, when it's in the case the quality seems to suffer a bit. If in the market for a video camera on the boat, I'd check out the GoPro HD camera. http://www.goprocamera.com/

JoHNI_T
06-07-2010, 11:56 AM
I want to see some pictures of the boat with the water at the rail!

yup, just like in scotts shot while surf n the water is at the rail, I would say my platform is 10 inch under water on the surf side.

does a guy have to worry about the steel grates getting water in them? is that the intake?


very sweet scott, I love all the bags, my gf was like wtf we still have theese 400lb launch bags on the floor I thought you said the new ones were enough and I say,, its never enough lol...

heres a few shots mo to come.

3133

3134

3135

3136

batmobil
06-07-2010, 01:41 PM
Is this a 21v? If so, what year? Wave looks great.

JoHNI_T
06-07-2010, 03:33 PM
Is this a 21v? If so, what year? Wave looks great.

mine?

I have 2006 22ssv. with 900ish rear corner 650 on the floor pushed to surf side and 650 in the locker.

I think scott has the 21v.

ScottnAz
08-03-2010, 10:09 PM
I was reading back through this thread and got excited.
It's been a couple months, and we've all played around with our weight.
Anybody have anything new to report???

Matt Laird
08-03-2010, 10:21 PM
I started surfing on the port side, this weekend I set up;
1200# surf side
400# factory bag ontop of the portside seat
400# pop bags lining the floor inside the port locker
1150# center bag full
200# pop bags in the bow
600# with all the batterys and subs exc on the starboard side
250-350# water in rear starboard locker
350# people in boat
wake plate 3/4 way up

I was very impressed with the setup, I had a waist high wake and could recover from 12-14' behind the boat... I have a video ill post on YouTube later

ScottnAz
08-03-2010, 10:31 PM
Sounds killer, can't wait to see the video

mapleleaf
08-03-2010, 10:48 PM
We managed to surf my boat this weekend, still not a great wave, could toss the rope for about 20 seconds...I think with a comp you need a very specific weight set up and person p[lacement and possibily a slightly longer board. We're riding a 5'0" board that seems fairly aggressive, more pics to come this ones off my Blackberry,
We managed to get an est. 1500lb'sof ballast plus another 400lb human weight. Had about 500 up front and the rest in the back in all sorts of containers!!!!!
Anyway the boat was freak'in low......

Matt Laird
08-03-2010, 10:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbrjYzGNr5E

Here you go Scott, dont laugh @ My skill level, or the video quality...
It was recorded by a 7yr old with an Iphone

ScottnAz
08-03-2010, 11:57 PM
Thanks for the video Matt, I dig it!! But then again, I'm a serious SurfAholic.... You're definitely on the right track, keep it up. Next, we expect to see the 7yr old on the board, and you behind the Iphone vid cam. :)

Maple - the stacked rubbermaids are AWESOME!!!!

mapleleaf
08-04-2010, 12:12 AM
took some advice from some good guys here and applied it. They don't seal up super good cuz of the weight they'll hold, but she got sunk and we surfed!!!!!!!!!!!Gotta find a way to make the pocket longer.....

johndoe777
08-04-2010, 02:13 AM
800 lbs of ballast and 7 people

DintyMo
08-10-2010, 04:19 PM
Lake Minnetonka (off friend's Malibu)

cmtaylor777
08-10-2010, 05:35 PM
Good God man. I think the first supper was served on that thing..

Rusty
04-16-2011, 02:54 PM
Gotta Love It!
1st time riders, ya their bodies are a little soar the next day -
But I always get the comment, "Why is my jaw so soar?"
We call it jaw fatigue - From SMILIN!!!

https://forum.supraboats.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2946&stc=1&d=1274366285

Man, look how clear that water is!! Makes the water I board in look like sewer!

Rusty
04-16-2011, 02:57 PM
Lake Minnetonka (off friend's Malibu)

Daaaaaaang!! What are you boarding on, an airplane wing?

Ptownkid
04-17-2011, 11:34 AM
Good God man. I think the first supper was served on that thing..

I was thinking the same thing, hahaha

foxer720
04-21-2011, 01:29 PM
Here's my port-side wave on a 2007 22ssv.
1100lb port locker
About 300-500 starboard locker
800lbs up front
400lbs on the port side floor
400lbs on the port side bench
Amplitude and length of the pocket are awesome. I'm just not a fan of the double lip created by the swim platform dragging. Going to try smoothing out the underside of the platform by filling with fiberglass.

The Squeaky Wheel
04-21-2011, 08:44 PM
My daughter behind an '09 21V with 750 in the port locker, full 650 up front and another approx 400 lb of human ballast on the port side.

chrisk
04-22-2011, 12:43 AM
Squeaky, how do you like that Ronix board? I almost bought one of those but I pulled back because of the swallow tail, it does have a swallow tail right?

Ptownkid
04-22-2011, 12:49 AM
Yes it does...you can see it in the picture.

The Squeaky Wheel
04-22-2011, 06:26 AM
Squeaky, how do you like that Ronix board? I almost bought one of those but I pulled back because of the swallow tail, it does have a swallow tail right?

Honestly, I hate that board. It does nothing for me, although my wife digs it for just cruising up n' down the lip. It feels slow & dull to me at 165 lbs. Yes, it's a swallow tail.

Last summer I purchased a surf style CWB Razr which I like a lot, and I purchased an IS Mucus this month which I'm jonesing to try...just another week or so before we launch the boat.

viking
04-23-2011, 03:33 PM
Lake Minnetonka (off friend's Malibu)

Holy Balls! I've never seen a boat ride another boats surf wake until now. Is that an older supra comp TS6M he's riding there?

chrisk
05-02-2011, 03:34 PM
http://yachtsurf.blogspot.com/

These guys have it made

CarZin
05-11-2011, 02:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTDycKw__h8&feature=youtu.be

This was the wave we setup last week. It was just me in the boat. I had 650 pounds in the rear starboard locker, the front was filled to 650 pounds, and I had (2) 550 pound bags behind the captains chairs... This is on an 09 21V. This is also my brother on essentially his first day of wakesurfing.

Questions:
1) For those that have been behind a lot of boats, how good is this wave?
2) Could the wave be made longer by using the same bags and adding 2-3 people in the bow?

The wave seemed very ridable for me when I went out on it. The thing I want is more length, but I'm not sure its really going to get much longer on this boat.

87SunSportMikeyD
05-12-2011, 10:14 AM
A knee high wave is considered small.
Thigh-high is medium.
Waist or above is a big wave.

Even my old 87 Sun can get a thigh high wave regularly, sometimes bigger. I run 500 in rear, 700 on rear floor, and 300 in bow.

That wave looks nice, but only about knee high. Without too much work you should be able to get it 6-8" taller. I would put more weight in the rear to start and if your wave it 'too steep' you will start to run into the swim platform. Then it's time to use a few hundred lbs only of bow weight, this will make the wave smaller but the pocket much longer. Nice video. Most people I know dont run much bow weight.

CarZin
05-13-2011, 02:45 PM
Thank you. I believe when I put the same ballasts in the boat, with the addition of 3 or 4 people in the corner, and a couple people in the front, I'll get it much better.

Okie Boarder
05-13-2011, 03:23 PM
Mikey,

Is that all the weight you run?

I'm running 800 pounds in the rear all the way across, plus 500 up front in the bilge area center.

Then I add two 350# bags in the back corner...one on the floor next to the engine up against the rear seat and the other on top of lap overlapping onto the seat. Then I add one 350# up front in the bow on the surf side. I still don't seem to have the kind of wave it seems like I should have with all that weight.

Okie Boarder
05-13-2011, 04:57 PM
A couple wave pictures...

87SunSportMikeyD
05-14-2011, 02:05 PM
IMO most people run too much bow weight. Your pocket is nice and long, but like you said you're not getting the height for some reason. My recommendation would be to start with the 800 in back, and the 2x350 bags in back. Then you will likely be 'using the brakes' a lot ie steep wave. Then add the 350 to the bow.

The reason I put mine in the hidden bow spot is that it keeps the bag close to the bow and pressed against the port hull. I would not recommend using more than 3-400lbs in front of the doghouse (excluding passengers). This is just imho, I dont claim to be 'the expert' or anything. :)

I have gone as high as 2000lbs plus 5 passengers but I find the best compromise as far as ease of handling, filling time, etc, to still give me the rockin wave I want is 1600lbs or so plus crew. Even if it's just the driver and mirror and me surfing, I usually stop at about 1600. Bigger crew is always nice though IF you can make em sit where you want em hehe!

This is probably my average wave, knee high when I am about 15-20' back in the pocket. Thigh when you get closer. That is also a compromise I make. The wave can be taller (by removing bow weight), but then it doesnt have as long a pocket for recoveries.
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/medium/6080141.jpg

Here are some bigger waves from me:
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/medium/6091021.jpg
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/medium/6090921.jpg
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/medium/660532.jpg

Okie Boarder
05-14-2011, 09:35 PM
OK, let me clarify a few things. The 800 in the back goes all the way across the boat...do you see a problem with that? What about the 500 in the bilge, should I drain that? I'm thinking maybe I should just put all the 350's in the back instead of putting any in front since I already have the 500 up front down in the bilge in front of the engine.

87SunSportMikeyD
05-14-2011, 11:16 PM
I also run my rear weight all across the back. IMHO it sinks the whole rear of the boat, making a taller wave. Then we make sure to add weight on the surf side too of course.

The bilge I am not sure about. Forward weight like that in newer boats where the tank is in the middle belly the just use like 100lbs. It sinks the bow a bunch. And out deep vee is real deep. If you get the weight off to one side, it has a different effect on the wave. I dunno lol. Tough to talk about. Try a sac on the bow once just on top the cushions. Keep it toward the port side. Also not much bow weight nessecary really. So maybe ditch the bilge sac for now.

Just start with rear weight untill you are getting close, then start messing with bow weight by itself. At least thats what I did. Again I dont want to try and sound like I am the expert or anything hehe

Okie Boarder
05-15-2011, 10:52 AM
Next time we surf I'll drain the bilge weight and then add the 350 bags to the surf side. I'll start with the two in the back and go from there. I'll see how it does and report back.

I notice a lot of people's waves seem to curl around behind them and mine seems rather straight. Does that make a difference?

How fast do you normally go mikey?

87SunSportMikeyD
05-15-2011, 06:26 PM
Hmm well some people insist in driving in circles, maybe that could be what you are seeing? We drive straight and our wave is always straight as seen in this pic from previous post:
http://photos.wakeboarder.com/data/3508/medium/6090921.jpg

We go 10.5-11.5. I have a feeling you'll get it dialed soon heheh! :)

Okie Boarder
05-16-2011, 09:42 AM
Thanks for all the info mikey. I'll see what happens next time we try it out.

87SunSportMikeyD
05-16-2011, 10:12 AM
Hey I'm always happy to chat - sharing shortens the learning curve for us all, right? Please let me know, too, what works best for you. I'm always willing to try other weight configurations too!

DAFF
05-16-2011, 10:55 PM
How many hulls does supra have?? I know from 82-96 mainly three with different cap configuarations. Has anyone created a weight deplacement diagrams of the most effective sacking placements with respect to hulls??


FRONT


PORT MID STAR MID


PORT REAR STAR REAR

EQUAL REAR

Can't get the diagram to look right. But if someone with better computer knowledge can create a template which we can enter our findings it would greatly improve the learning curve.

bird_dog0347
07-10-2011, 05:46 PM
My boat...

We had the front gravity games bag in the back locker (roughly 900#), a 750# sac on the floor, a 750# sac on the seat, a 400# sac in the front locker, a 450# guy (red shirt), a pair of 250# guys, plus me (165#) and one other guy maybe about 150#. Sunk to the rub rail and the wave was sweet, it was as deep as it was tall...

KG's Supra24
07-11-2011, 11:40 AM
Looks solid bird dog!! I usually have to run weight in the non-surfside if i put a ton of weight on the surfside in order to clean up the top of the wave.

The lean looks bada$$!!

CarZin
07-14-2011, 03:07 PM
I have probably surfed myself and others about 60 hours on the boat since March, so I've had a chance to really check out various configs on the 21V. There is absolutely a point of diminishing return. I have 650 pounds in the rear port lock, 650 in the front locker, then I fill up two 550 pounds, one directly behind the driver, then one on the floor.

Where the extra weight is nice is if you are surfing port side, in which extra weight is needed to offset the driver. I can definitely notice it then. But I cant really get it any bigger than when I load it as mentioned above on starboard. Looks about the same if I have that weight and 8 people in the boat, or that config and 1 person in the boat.

KG's Supra24
07-14-2011, 05:15 PM
There is absolutely a point of diminishing return.

Agreed. I have come to the same conclusion after playing with mine for about a year now.

juliafallows
07-20-2011, 07:18 PM
i think i wore down my cartilidge in my knees after my last session at lake berryessa.

villain
05-20-2013, 08:49 AM
i know this is a thread revival of massive proportions, but most of the pics dont work for me. anyone have pics of a clean saltare or sunsport wave that is on the bigger size? on the hunt for either one of these two and trying to find pics for the wife. she doesnt want an older boat, but i dont want a payment or an i/o.

chrisk
05-20-2013, 11:20 AM
87SunSportMikeyD's picture on page 9 seems to work, his is an old Sunsport. '87 I believe?

Zim
05-20-2013, 02:02 PM
Anyone have any ideas how to clean up the wake? I tried surfing behind my 20v yesterday, and it washed out really quickly. I had the 400lb bow sac full, and the surf side 400lb sac as well. Had 2 girls up front in the bow (one on surf side, one in the center), and had 4 others on surf side rear corner area. It washed out really quickly.. any ideas?

2500HD
05-20-2013, 02:41 PM
Anyone have any ideas how to clean up the wake? I tried surfing behind my 20v yesterday, and it washed out really quickly. I had the 400lb bow sac full, and the surf side 400lb sac as well. Had 2 girls up front in the bow (one on surf side, one in the center), and had 4 others on surf side rear corner area. It washed out really quickly.. any ideas?
What was your speed? 10.5 to 11 is recommended. More weight, 400 isn't much for the back. Even with 4 people in the back you were probably only pushing 1100lbs.

Zim
05-20-2013, 03:49 PM
What was your speed? 10.5 to 11 is recommended. More weight, 400 isn't much for the back. Even with 4 people in the back you were probably only pushing 1100lbs.

My speedo isn't working, so I don't know exactly, but running GPS on my phone I was between 10-12. I played with the speed between there, and also with the wakeplate but just couldn't clean the wake up. It had good push real close to the boat, but anything further than maybe 8-10ft from the platform was really washed out and had no push.

2500HD
05-22-2013, 08:20 AM
My speedo isn't working, so I don't know exactly, but running GPS on my phone I was between 10-12. I played with the speed between there, and also with the wakeplate but just couldn't clean the wake up. It had good push real close to the boat, but anything further than maybe 8-10ft from the platform was really washed out and had no push.
Mike, you need more weight.

Zim
05-22-2013, 10:11 AM
Mike, you need more weight.

In the rear or front, or both? I keep hearing 40/60 split for front/rear. I plan to upgrade to some 750lb bags to replace my 400's, then placing the 400 on the rear seat of surf side, and one up in the front walk way. Think that'd do it?

2500HD
05-22-2013, 10:35 AM
I'd start with that, every boat is a little different so play around with it.

chrisk
05-22-2013, 02:18 PM
You likely need more weight... but, on the flip side you could have too much weight. If you're putting too much weight on the surf side there's a chance you're pushing your swim platform into the water which could distort the wake. Again, most likely you need more weight, but just be wary of the opposite side of the coin.

wotan2525
05-22-2013, 02:29 PM
No such thing as too much weight unless the rub rail is covered or water is coming over the stern. Keep sacking!

chrisk
05-22-2013, 03:18 PM
I think you're probably kidding, but regardless I need to address that further because I just thought of something I meant to say earlier.

If your prop is one that is meant for medium to high-end running (higher pitch) then if you put too much weight in the boat the prop could spin too fast at the slow speed causing a washed out surf wake. As you add more weight to your setup it is usually advantageous to reduce pitch of the prop so that your motor can push the weight efficiently and your wake isn't washed out.

I'm really only familiar with prop sizes for the older boats, so I don't know the specs of what the stock prop on your 20V would be or what to recommend, for that matter. That make sense to anybody else, or am I blowing smoke?

KG's Supra24
05-22-2013, 03:56 PM
In the rear or front, or both? I keep hearing 40/60 split for front/rear. I plan to upgrade to some 750lb bags to replace my 400's, then placing the 400 on the rear seat of surf side, and one up in the front walk way. Think that'd do it?

I'd think what you have typically read is 60/40 front to back but that is for wakeboarding. Surfing you will want as much weight in the rear corner as possible and then some front weight to level it out. In the 20v, I agree with you, I'd go with 750's in the rear.

Do you have playpen or open bow seating in the front? 400 laying on the seat or back locker would work well. A buddy had a 20v that used to surf pretty decent.

Zim
05-28-2013, 09:31 AM
Well, I got it to surf really well over the weekend. I just needed mroe weight as you all mentioned. I had a bunch of friends with me for the weekend, so we stacked them on the surf side and it kicked out a monster wave and it was really clean for a good 15 feet back or so. I had 10 people in the boat and filled all the ballast (except the non-surf side). That was some fun stuff. Now to get some bigger sac's...

sybrmike
06-06-2013, 07:04 PM
Got a chance to play with the goofy side for my daughter over Memorial Day weekend. I was driving & this is the only decent pic taken by others, but she did finally get some decent free riding. Approximately 400 lbs in the bow, 750 surf sack on stbd chaise next to doghouse, 200 stbd rear bench, 400 in ski locker, and 6 post prom teenage crew mostly stbd. Not too bad for a 24 year old DD

http://i.imgur.com/gxFFrgB.jpg

Wylietunes
06-06-2013, 10:18 PM
52 ft Cruisers Yacht.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x101/chpthril/Picture975.jpg (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/chpthril/media/Picture975.jpg.html)

2500HD
06-06-2013, 10:21 PM
holy crap thats an ugly wave. Big but ugly.

Wylietunes
06-06-2013, 10:24 PM
Yeah, 52ft boats dont respond well to ballast. We had 34 homeless people we were moving about and that was the best we could get.

2500HD
06-06-2013, 10:39 PM
i still want to surf it!

Jetlink
06-07-2013, 12:53 AM
Wylie, did it look something like this?
12255

villain
06-07-2013, 08:24 AM
homeless people huh? charity work?

JmattNC80
06-10-2013, 01:42 PM
Ok, so I have read through most of this topic and haven't seen anyone with a late model DD and how they are weighting it.

2003 Launch DD here. Typically we throw a 350 in the rear locker, stock plumbed bag under the rear seat, 540 in center locker and a 540 on whichever side depending on the stance of the person surfing, Tab all the way up.

We bought a 5 11 hyperlite because we knew it was tough to get the push on a DD. This setup works pretty well and we can go without the rope on most days.

Anyone got any advice?

Thinking of toying with the weight distribution next week while we are up....

Putting 540 in rear locker and using the 350 to place on either side of the doghouse. Possibly moving the 540 from the center locker to the bow.

Thoughts?

trayson
06-10-2013, 02:29 PM
Ok, so I have read through most of this topic and haven't seen anyone with a late model DD and how they are weighting it.

2003 Launch DD here. Typically we throw a 350 in the rear locker, stock plumbed bag under the rear seat, 540 in center locker and a 540 on whichever side depending on the stance of the person surfing, Tab all the way up.

We bought a 5 11 hyperlite because we knew it was tough to get the push on a DD. This setup works pretty well and we can go without the rope on most days.

Anyone got any advice?

Thinking of toying with the weight distribution next week while we are up....

Putting 540 in rear locker and using the 350 to place on either side of the doghouse. Possibly moving the 540 from the center locker to the bow.

Thoughts?

There was a post on the previous page.

I'm just learning how to get mine weighted well.

I tried a bag under my rear seat, another tube sack on the floor in front of the rear seat. the 750 fat sack beside the engine on the surf side, and another sack filling the cooler up front. I would estimate around 1200+ pounds of ballast??

1992 Supra Sunsport, wakeplate fully up. Somewhere between 11 and 11.5mph
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vVu9aVJX9gI/UbVm7tpng0I/AAAAAAAAOIs/1G9U41Mica4/s800/975193_10101351336737232_2038531666_n.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nAGkaiBWqvY/UbVp8H15SWI/AAAAAAAAOK4/blkE7sXNFXU/s800/974895_10101351336597512_2119799693_n.jpg

kvand347
06-11-2013, 02:56 PM
Trayson--try and slow down a bit...that helped me. I think I surf around 9mph. It should help with the push.

trayson
06-11-2013, 03:03 PM
Trayson--try and slow down a bit...that helped me. I think I surf around 9mph. It should help with the push.

Okay, I'll def give that a shot. I know there's a lot of trial and error to all of this.

Amount of Ballast
Location of Ballast
Speed of boat
Distance of rider behind the transom
Type of board you're riding
Rider skill level

Jetlink
06-11-2013, 05:05 PM
Okay, I'll def give that a shot. I know there's a lot of trial and error to all of this.

Amount of Ballast
Location of Ballast
Speed of boat
Distance of rider behind the transom
Type of board you're riding
Rider skill level


You forgot to add if the tractor beam has been deactivated or not.

sybrmike
06-11-2013, 10:56 PM
My God Spock - did he say tractor beam? That's how it all began for me back on stardate 10/11/09...

https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?5105-1989-Saltare-My-god-Spock-what-have-I-done

Trayson - let me know when you get it figured out - still working on mine.

trayson
06-11-2013, 11:32 PM
My God Spock - did he say tractor beam? That's how it all began for me back on stardate 10/11/09...

https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?5105-1989-Saltare-My-god-Spock-what-have-I-done

Trayson - let me know when you get it figured out - still working on mine.

Well, it'll be a while before I figure it out... I just dropped the boat off at my local boat dealer. Slipping tranny again. :-( I'm on vacation in NYC next week, so hopefully they have it figured out by the time I get back.

87SunSportMikeyD
03-22-2014, 09:16 AM
This thread is still alive? Wow! :) IMHO the Supras have a fantastic deep bow - dig that baby in and the displacement dramatically increases. I always run at least 400 in the bow personally in my 87SS. Cheers

trayson
03-25-2014, 05:55 PM
This thread is still alive? Wow! :) IMHO the Supras have a fantastic deep bow - dig that baby in and the displacement dramatically increases. I always run at least 400 in the bow personally in my 87SS. Cheers

I guess this thread is alive now! I don't run any bow weight.


My God Spock - did he say tractor beam? That's how it all began for me back on stardate 10/11/09...

https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?5105-1989-Saltare-My-god-Spock-what-have-I-done

Trayson - let me know when you get it figured out - still working on mine.

My setup that seemed to work the best was as follows:


1992 Sunsport.

370 on the surfside floor beside the doghouse
750 on top of the above bag, with as much of it in the rear seat as possible.
about 250 under rear rear seat
150 either on top of the exposed part of the 370 or in the rear center seat.

No bow weight and I'm slammed to having water at the top of the rub rail in the back corner. Wakeplate is adjusted so it's down maybe 1/2 an inch or so.

Also have a custom surf platform that doesn't dig into the wake and kill it.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/phathomthis/Swim%20Platform/IMG_20130925_205817_386_zps7f7e41dc.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Xz4nHRCOoek/UlLUuScE4dI/AAAAAAAAPJg/C6Bjdv445C4/s800/IMG_7482492806397.jpeg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J6soRkPYnM0/UlLUgXang1I/AAAAAAAAPIA/srFIwkl_KdU/s800/1006131532-00.jpg

This video shows the platform and ballast setup pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW_eQnL5MPU

Green hulk
05-20-2014, 11:28 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/21/u7ymetu4.jpg


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shickman47
09-09-2014, 11:47 PM
2005 22ssv GG
https://forum.supraboats.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15052&d=1409750591

TLlorente
10-23-2015, 01:52 PM
167251672616727 Just got this 2015 SE450 so we're still playing with settings and weight . Its only gonna get better . Had to get this boat , tired of bags on the seats and floor.

Wrenhaven
11-19-2015, 06:08 PM
First attempt at surfing behind the boat, still messing with setup...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Wrenhaven/Boating/File%20Nov%2019%203%2046%2048%20PM.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Wrenhaven/media/Boating/File%20Nov%2019%203%2046%2048%20PM.jpeg.html)

Got ballast!? ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/Wrenhaven/Boating/File%20Nov%2019%203%2047%2034%20PM.jpeg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Wrenhaven/media/Boating/File%20Nov%2019%203%2047%2034%20PM.jpeg.html)

BigSurfer
11-19-2015, 10:05 PM
Supra SE450


Tapatalkhttps://vimeo.com/146345805

Ty Lambert
12-11-2015, 06:02 AM
1677916779

Ty Lambert
12-11-2015, 06:06 AM
1678016780

Ty Lambert
12-11-2015, 06:08 AM
1678216782

trayson
12-11-2015, 07:31 PM
1677916779

Where do you usually ride at? I am in Vancouver across the river and usually ride over by Hayden Island. And sometimes at Merwin, Lake Billy, and Prineville Res

Ty Lambert
01-25-2016, 02:46 PM
Where do you usually ride at? I am in Vancouver across the river and usually ride over by Hayden Island. And sometimes at Merwin, Lake Billy, and Prineville Res

This last year it was primarily Hagg Lake. I also like Detroit Lake, and Newberg.

NorCalPR
03-13-2016, 03:44 PM
Well, not the biggest, but here's my 98 comp. That was with 8 people, and roughly 700 pounds of ballast

For a direct drive, it's an awesome wave

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/87af6e209ecc192f693a6136ea8c13a0.jpg

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SurferMan
04-25-2016, 10:23 AM
2005 22ssv GG
https://forum.supraboats.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15052&d=1409750591

What is your surf setup? I have a 2004 22ssv so I think my setup could be similar to yours?

daraujo
04-25-2016, 06:47 PM
1705517056

Here's a couple from yesterday's fun. Still testing the wake shaper. Can still make it bigger with more weight.

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tmino03
04-26-2016, 12:31 PM
17061
"2001 Supra Launch DD custom swell surf system"

mydogzeke
05-16-2016, 06:44 PM
tmino03, what is this custom swell surf system you speak of? That wave looks pretty good for a DD.

ICEMANFiZ
05-16-2016, 10:28 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160517/ef76e5963f0fc82dcef98d96467dfde5.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160517/f088cabbc5e54be3de8d36af5772cc72.jpg

2013 LSV 1100 surf side and 1150 in bow. Just 1 passenger.
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plav77
05-18-2016, 12:24 PM
17061
"2001 Supra Launch DD custom swell surf system"

How much weight are you running and where is the placement?

trayson
05-18-2016, 01:13 PM
tmino03, what is this custom swell surf system you speak of? That wave looks pretty good for a DD.

https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?16936-Possible-to-install-SurfSwell-on-21v-or-other-older-Supra&p=122041#post122041

ICEMANFiZ
05-18-2016, 08:25 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160519/00fa6e8a1c18ea8698db13bb83448f8c.jpg

600 pounds in each locker roughly and 600 up front.


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WB_TX
06-08-2016, 09:20 PM
Largest wave this year for me.

17300

Full 750's in rear ballasts, 85% full front 800lb ballast, plus 2 x 400lb fat sacs on port side. I also have the Wakeland surf system with 3 tabs down on port side.

MJHKnox
06-10-2016, 01:05 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160519/00fa6e8a1c18ea8698db13bb83448f8c.jpg

600 pounds in each locker roughly and 600 up front.


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What year and boat do you have? Looks good.

ICEMANFiZ
06-10-2016, 01:32 PM
What year and boat do you have? Looks good.

2013 Moomba LSV


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plav77
06-10-2016, 04:13 PM
2004 Supra Launch Direct Drive using a SuckGate!
17306

BigSurfer
08-10-2016, 01:35 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160810/d1d089eba6c5f0c4f53d2459e7ed1546.jpg

Love my SE450


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Scharff
09-01-2016, 11:37 PM
17683

01 22ssv 750 in rear 350 up front and ghetto gate

SupraCLT
09-06-2016, 01:52 PM
A couple Pictures from this past weekend, most successful wave to date, about 1900 lbs rear ballast, mission delta, around 350 lbs in the front bag and two of us on the boat.

17704
17705

markthered
09-06-2016, 01:58 PM
17706

For the first time I added weight to the front bag (about 350 lbs), and I had the best wave by far. Not quite as tall, but a lot longer, so we had a lot more room to surf, which was awesome.

joe surfer
09-09-2016, 01:25 AM
my buddy danny riding one out

4alkings
09-09-2016, 06:19 PM
That's a nice looking curl to that wave. And a fairly nice pocket. I'm really struggling to get length and push with my 242. With 1000lb bags in the rear I can create a monster wave, but not much length to the pocket and weak push that makes it hard to drop the rope.


17706

For the first time I added weight to the front bag (about 350 lbs), and I had the best wave by far. Not quite as tall, but a lot longer, so we had a lot more room to surf, which was awesome.

Lfuryus
09-09-2016, 06:22 PM
my buddy danny riding one out

Great picture


90 Supra Saltare
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markthered
09-12-2016, 04:56 PM
That's a nice looking curl to that wave. And a fairly nice pocket. I'm really struggling to get length and push with my 242. With 1000lb bags in the rear I can create a monster wave, but not much length to the pocket and weak push that makes it hard to drop the rope.

The setup on a 242 will be different, of course, but here is what i had: 1,100 lb bag in surfside locker, 400 lb bag laid out halfway on rear surfside deck / seat, then added roughly 350 lbs up front, and had a couple of people up front. I haven't been putting weight up front, but it helped lengthen it out. If you could add some weight up front, then put all your people on the surfside rear, that might come up pretty nice. And I don't put anything opposite surfside rear.

padge
09-13-2016, 08:16 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160913/1a1b4255d6b35277a980032fa201e893.jpg
Not a supra but a wave none the less lol.


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chardy287
09-13-2016, 09:54 PM
17732 2016 supra with a quick shift wave shaper.

MJHKnox
09-14-2016, 02:26 PM
17732 2016 supra with a quick shift wave shaper.

Looks good.

Funny how all these devices are getting different names by different people making and selling: suck-gates, surf-gates, surf-plates, wake-plates, wake-shapers, etc
They work. This one can be adjusted - that is pretty cool

mgerrow
06-07-2017, 09:04 PM
18132

My launch gg 21v with quickshift wake shaper

mgerrow
06-07-2017, 09:06 PM
18133
Port side with quickshift wake shaper. 800 in each rear, 1k in the bow 11mph

Jeepers
05-15-2018, 12:32 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180515/ec888f4607b72d8a12b1a93d56329a3e.jpg


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padge
05-15-2018, 12:33 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180515/dcf1c5d298d483a7fd5c18de3c7cc9cf.jpg


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mharp85
06-14-2018, 08:01 AM
https://youtu.be/VPRuUzK48_o

This was the end of the day and the boat was a little heavy!

masterjudi
06-14-2018, 08:33 PM
awww,, so coolll!! :rolleyes:

Oldernotwiser
10-08-2018, 12:54 AM
Getting some air behind the SL

MJHKnox
10-08-2018, 04:20 PM
Looks like a Phase 5 Ahi, nice.

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MJHKnox
10-08-2018, 04:23 PM
Getting some air behind the SLHow much add'l weight are you running?

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Oldernotwiser
10-10-2018, 10:45 AM
How much add'l weight are you running?

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600 pounds. 200 under each side of tower and 100 each back corner. That is with only myself in boat. And yes, Phase 5 AHI. Bailey Rush in photo is a team rider for Phase 5.

Jeepers
10-10-2018, 11:10 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181010/a8747f5bcc76236d7f40e30835533ed3.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181010/458c086422c37f4d5584ac667320e0e9.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181010/b39baa4b8c1375d9c357958e9850d3f9.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181010/7b78f0e77acb794d5e43776965a7c579.jpg

2008 LSV: 3350#’s H2O Ballast, 600#’s Lead Ballast, ballast slightly favored to starboard, Wakeland mfg gen2 surf system set at 60% (3), ACME 2315 (15”x12”) Prop, consistent surf rpm’s of 3000 regardless of human ballast, 4 light weight adults on this run, speed typically 11.4 mph (depending on water conditions 11-12.5mph)

Wish I had port-side photo’s. Port-side wave slightly taller, much longer and way cleaner. Wakeland surf system port-side setting of 4 (80%). Ballast equally weighted port and starboard, humans placed wherever they wish.


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Oldernotwiser
10-10-2018, 11:53 AM
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2018 SL550. From the rail, 2 adults. 600 lbs lead. Rider 5'7. Awesome wave

MJHKnox
10-10-2018, 08:51 PM
Killer wave!

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pedel
10-10-2018, 11:23 PM
18973

2018 SL550. From the rail, 2 adults. 600 lbs lead. Rider 5'7. Awesome wave

Looks great. DO you mind sharing your settings?


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MJHKnox
10-11-2018, 12:25 AM
2008 LSV: 3350#’s H2O Ballast, 600#’s Lead Ballast, ballast slightly favored to starboard, Wakeland mfg gen2 surf system set at 60% (3), ACME 2315 (15”x12”) Prop, consistent surf rpm’s of 3000 regardless of human ballast, 4 light weight adults on this run, speed typically 11.4 mph (depending on water conditions 11-12.5mph)

Wish I had port-side photo’s. Port-side wave slightly taller, much longer and way cleaner. Wakeland surf system port-side setting of 4 (80%). Ballast equally weighted port and starboard, humans placed wherever they wish.


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When you are running your tabs, are you going Star3-Port0?
Then the reverse for opposite side - Port4-Star0?

Jeepers
10-11-2018, 01:58 AM
When you are running your tabs, are you going Star3-Port0?
Then the reverse for opposite side - Port4-Star0?


Surf Goofy: Starboard Tab 0, port tab 3
Surf Regular: starboard tab 4, port tab 0

Wake plate completely depends on water conditions; smooth/glass all the way up, windy rougher water just above 50% deployed. The Goofy wave is considerably more sensitive to wakeplate adjustments than regular.


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MJHKnox
10-11-2018, 11:10 PM
Thanks. I usually run 3-0 on the reg side.
Not many goofy riders, but I run 3-0 on that side also.

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Oldernotwiser
10-14-2018, 11:21 PM
Looks great. DO you mind sharing your settings?

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10 and 4 25 percent centre plate