Dogs

[cmtaylor777]

*****BLEED OVER FROM PREVIOUS THREAD*****



He is my fifth one. I had three at one time but he is the only Rot i have left now. Lost 2 to cancer last year. That killed me. We are looking for a female to breed with. He is such a good breed we don't want to lose his bloodline.


My crew from a few years back. I miss them.

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Got a Mastiff too. She is a handful.
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[dusty2221]

I've lost 1 to cancer and 1 to something I don't remember the name of. Basically, he couldn't move. It was heartbreaking. His feet wouldn't work, so he walked on the topsides of them..picture folding your wrist under and using the top side of your hand to crawl on.....

Sorry to thread jack.

[TayTay]

This subject got started in another thread but I figured it would be a fun one!

I have three, a German Shepherd named Tank. He is 1 1/2 years old, still kind of a handful, BIG boy but has some puppy "I wanna jump and play all over" in him. Cali is the little black one. She is actually a Pug Chihuahua mix. She is also 1 1/2 years old. Reonna is the tan dog who is 10. She is a German Shepherd Rhodesian Ridgeback mix.

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Tank and Cali we got at the same time when Tank was 12 weeks and Cali was 6 weeks. They are VERY close and LOVE to play!

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[dusty2221]

We've got three dogs. Mango, our Rotti, Mali, our Great Dane, and Sampson our Yorki-Poo (Sampson is a girl. lol)
We adopted Mango from a guy that was gonna have him pt down when he was a year old. The guys son brought home a pit and the pit was mean to him. The dad figured he'd put Mango down rather than piss his son off. I could not believe it. Like a typical Rott, he is the sweetest, most loyal dog ever. These pics make him look tiny, but he is a beast, a short wide hunk of muscle with a head the size of a basketball!

Messy Face
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This dog is a mess. I can't believe how attached I am to this little thing though. That's why I didn't want her...
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Dang, I feel like a bad dad, I don't have any pics of our Dane on my work comp! She is old, nearly 8, so she is on borrowed time. From what I read most Danes live 5-7 years. She is very high stress and skinny as all get out. I wish she wasn't like that, but it's been like that since she was a pup. She's taller than most male Danes I've ever seen.

[iwakeboard]

Some adorable pups, Tay, great idea. It's cute to see German Shepards, who are so powerful and smart, act like small pups.

Here's my girl, she's an Australian Shepard mix, and she loves the boat

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[Salty87]

great thread and nice pics. i always have dog pictures.

this is the only pic i have of Jackson as a puppy. it was scanned, pre-digital camera days for me. we found Jackson as a puppy wandering the neighborhood. he was about 4 or 5 months old and fit on the bow perfectly for a little while. this was his favorite spot....
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now he's all tennis balls all the time. there are tennis balls in both of our cars, the bed, the boat...whenever it's time to go outside, Jack has to find a ball first. can't eat w/o a tennis ball, duh...
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this is Colby. we got her from a breeder at 7 weeks old. she has been a handful to say the least. she's my shadow, she prefers to lay down behind me whenever i stop for more than a minute. it took a little while to get used to and i've tripped over her more than once. she was kind enough to lay in front of me here...
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she has a thing for bloody mary's. better not eat the celery or she'll let you hear about it.
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[Okie Boarder]

Great thread. I'll have to add some pictures.

We have a mutt that has some terrier and poodle mix. She looks a lot like a yorkiepoo with maybe a dash of this and that mixed in. She's 11 and she's getting to be on borrowed time too. We had her for about 9 months before our oldest (Bryce) was born. Our boys don't know life without her (Missy). It's going to be a heartbreaker when she goes.

We bought a Dachshund from a breeder a few years ago to have a second dog to ease the inevitable pain of losing the first one and to be a buddy for our older one who was getting a little cranky in her old age. Her name is Schatzi. She's an interesting dog, to say the least.

[cmtaylor777]

Dusty

Gotta give props to you for stepping up and adopting the Rotti. People really don't understand what kind of dogs they really are. You can't find a better dog.

I adopted my Mastiff, Sable from a friends ex wife. She had her in an apartment kept in a cage. When she dropped her off at our house she limped and was very malnourished. I couldn't believe how someone could do that. She is a great dog though.

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[Fman]

Heres our pup, "Cooper" he is a purebread golden, these pics were taken on Lake Shasta last year in July, he was 8 months old then. Just turned 1 in January this year, we love him, he always goes out on the boat with us. He is about 70 lbs now, still trying to convince him to pee off the swim deak but no luck!

[jet]

Salty..does your wife know that you posted that pic?? What dog? lol

[KG's Supra24]

These were all from the old boat. Hesitant to take him on the new boat, though. Sounds like most people do take their dogs out? Any problems with them tearing up the seats with their nails?

[Fman]

These were all from the old boat. Hesitant to take him on the new boat, though. Sounds like most people do take their dogs out? Any problems with them tearing up the seats with their nails?

I just have his nails trimmed often during the season and it does not seem to be a problem. Definitely try and keep him off the upholstry as much as possible, the walk through platform really helps.

[jet]

Does a FAT rabbit count. Jet

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=app_2392950137&id=1556382128#!/video/video.php?v=1335925568982

[Okie Boarder]

Interesting thing happened last night with our dogs...maybe you guys can shedsome light on this one. Our older dog, Missy, recently had a growth removed and is still healing up. Last night our Dachshund, Shatzi, had one of those episodes where she got aggressive with Missy. Kind of the Alpha dog thing where they get in a little spat / fight. Well, she managed to open up the incision completely....6-8" long 2-3" wide. She didn't literally tear the skin, just opened up the previous incision area.

We've noticed Shatzi can get a little mean and aggressive with Missy and even sometimes with the kid. The kids mess with her a bit, which kind of explains why she gets that way.

Is there something we can do to help Shatzi calm down and not be so aggressive? I don't want her to end up hurting Missy really bad or even one of the kids.

[cmtaylor777]

Oakie

Dogs will act this way for several reasons. We tend to think of our dog's thoughts as being like our own, which in most cases they aren't. Sometimes dogs will be aggressive when the other dog(injured dog) is acting weak or different in some way. Especially if you have a dominance issue with them already. The aggressive dog could have several reasons for doing this. Not necessarily jealousy or just wanting to hurt the other. Dogs still have a very primal instinct to them. The whole "Pack Instinct" thing is true. Some dogs will lash out at weaker members of the pack to try to get them back in line or to in fact kill the weaker member. I'm sure this probably isn't the case, but sometimes we forget that dogs are animals. They do not have the capabilities to think like we do. Their thoughts mean something totally different.

Your best bet is to seclude the hurt dog. You don't want the dominant one to see him in a weakened state, or being sheltered by you and your family. This will probably be hard. I once had to seclude one of my Rots for 11 weeks. Imagine having three 150lb dogs and seclude one of them to where he can't see the others. Wasn't easy.

That is what I would suggest. I have dealt with having multiple 150lb dogs and you can see some strange behaviors.

[cmtaylor777]

Oakie,

As for helping Shatzi....

Practice dominance activities with her. You have to teach her that she is not in control and that she can't be dominant. You even need to get your kids involved. Everyone in the house must be more dominant than the dog. This will help her to not be aggressive with anyone.

Try this.....

Take her on productive walks. IE. making her sit at every corner, Walk near you without controlling the walk, and pretty much controlling everything she does.

When you feed her, make her wait to eat. Make her sit at the bowl and not touch the food until you say its ok. She needs to know you control what happens at all times. Sounds hard but if I can make my 3 Rottweilers sit next to each other and wait before they eat...anything can happen.

There are other tricks as well. Sounds cheesy but, watch The Dog Whisperer. He teaches this same thing. Trust me...it works.

[Okie Boarder]

Interesting thoughts. The vet said something about the two of them being female and the whole alpha dog thing. My wife and I joked last night that maybe we need to bite Shatzi's ear so we're the Alpha like in that movie Snow Dogs or whatever it was...LOL!

[TayTay]

I have heard of people biting their dogs ears. I agree with Taylor 100%. You HAVE to be the most dominant. Just like he said, all of the people do. When this is the case, what i have experianced is that the dogs wont really "fight" for dominance because they know they have a boss already. If our dogs start getting into it, One yell by me or my wife, and they know, the boss wants us stop. Kind of that mentality.

I have a funny story about dominance. My dog trainer told us a story about one of his German Shepherds (he has 16!) that he was feeding one evening. The dog kind of gave him a growl like he wanted to play. When the trainer went to play push or something, the dog growled again, almost like he was challenging the trainers authority. Well the trainer took him out of his kennel and laid on him for 30 min until the dog was 100% submissive.

I have done that to my dog, if we are wrestling and he seems to be kind of "challenging" me. Ill lay on him, and he knows within a few seconds, I'm the boss. Another way to tell if you have good control over your dog, is to see if they will still obey you when you are laying on floor. Usually you give commands to a dog in a dominating stature, ie standing above them, but if you can lay on the floor and with the dog essentially standing over you, and they still obey, that is a sign that you have the dominance thing under control from the most part.

Another trick to try, in addition to making them wait before they eat. You should be able to walk right up to them and take their food, with no problems while they are eating it. Obviously give it back, but thats another way to tell.

Some other things I have heard to show dominace:
-Always walk through a door or passage BEFORE the dog. They should be following
-If a dog is in your way, walk OVER them, not around them.
-You eat before the dogs eat (that one is sometimes hard to do all the time)
-I dont do this one, but the human should have control over all of the toys. It is play time, when the owner says its play time, and then when your done, they toys go away.

Hopefully that all makes sense!

[Salty87]

these guys have it covered. my labs will square off very rarely, never with one of us. the younger one is uppity.

something about being on the end of a leash...i guess that's why dominatrixes get paid the big bucks...or so i hear. lol anything that reinforces the humans' superiority will do the trick really. how much and how long depends on the dog.

[Okie Boarder]

Good ideas guys. I see a few things we're doing that aren't making it clear to her that we are the boss, not her. We'll work on changing those things and I'm sure it will improve.

[Okie Boarder]

something about being on the end of a leash...i guess that's why dominatrixes get paid the big bucks...or so i hear.

You would think the dog would know my wife is the boss if that was the case. Wait, what? he he

[cmtaylor777]

You would be amazed at what changing the smallest things will accomplish. The food thing is huge. I have also held the dog down before. It sounds cruel but the dog is uncomfortable if it is dominant. The dog feels like he must make sure he stays in control and never looses the dominant position. That makes the dog anxious, uneasy and aggressive. The dog is much happier being able to relax and do what you ask. It sounds weird but it is true. They need to be dominated. All Indians need a chief. If not, they would kill each other.

[TayTay]

You would be amazed at what changing the smallest things will accomplish. The food thing is huge. I have also held the dog down before. It sounds cruel but the dog is uncomfortable if it is dominant. The dog feels like he must make sure he stays in control and never looses the dominant position. That makes the dog anxious, uneasy and aggressive. The dog is much happier being able to relax and do what you ask. It sounds weird but it is true. They need to be dominated. All Indians need a chief. If not, they would kill each other.

This is SO SO true. There are actually a lot of people that dont realize this and that is what can cause dog problems. Just like taylor said, its not being mean, but actually doing to the dog a favor.

[scotthons]

We have two dogs. One is a Pit Bull/Bullmastiff mix (biggest baby ever) and the other is a Rottweiler/Austrailian Shepperd mix. Of course they are going to be all over the boat so does anyone have any good sugestions on how to protect the upholstry. I was not too concerned on the old boat, but this time around might be a little different.

[RedlinedImagery]

Here's our boxer, Duke:

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On the Water LOL:

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[jzelt]

We are making seat covers this month for the Supra.
We made them for our I/O and they work very nice. As well as keeping the claws from the vinyl, they also prevent us from sticking to them in the sun.

We did the towel thing for about 3 weekends, and then said enough of that, we need something better.

Whoever launches the boat, puts them on the seat while they are in there as part of getting ready routine. Sometimes, since I usually do the truck, I launch her and have her put them on while she is on the water waiting for me to park.

We bought a terry cloth type of material. The back we attached elastic and that wraps around the bottom of the seat to hold the cover down. For the most part works.

A word of caution, they can slide on you if you aren't careful while standing on them. But overall, work great as well as dry quickly.

Over the back sunpad of the I/O, we used the bed sheet clips that you find to put on the corners of bed sheets (look like suspender fasteners on the end). Those worked good instead of elastic for the long span sections.

Don't have any pics on laptop currently. Can try to find some at home if needed/wanted.

[cmtaylor777]

Damn Tay!

you got some ears on that dog!

[TayTay]

HAHA! ya, He's a big boy. When he was a puppy he had one floppy one, lol.

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[cmtaylor777]

All Ears!!!

You guys aren't sneaking anything past him!

[Okie Boarder]

Here's our two. Missy is the blonde (Kind yorkie poo with some other mixed in I'm sure). Schatzi is the Dachshund.

I was talking to a friend the other day that has a lot of experience with Dachshund's and he said that the problem we're having is pretty normal when you have a chaotic high energy household and the dog isn't the center of attention. He said that dachshunds are better in more calm environments where they get a ton of attention. He said he had an aunt that had the same problem and nothing worked to improve it. They got rid of the dog and gave it to an older couple and the dog was fine after a little while.

We're talking about maybe doing the same thing.

She snapped at my wife Friday and bit her hard enough to make my wife bleed.

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[Tim405]

here's Margo...Australian Shepherd - smarter than I am...

[rustey]

last year was their first year on the water. They seemed to handle it pretty good.

[Okie Boarder]

So Schatzi attacked Missy again yesterday. We've been keeping them realtively well apart and really working with Schatzi. We talked to the vet at length. He said since she has fought and broke skin before this and she doesn't seem to be letting up, along with her snapping at the kids and my wife, he sees an escalating pattern that concerns him. My wife and I talked a lot about it and decided the best thing to do was to have her put down. We broke the news to the boys last night. Our oldest is really having a hard time. We had the boys spend time loving on her last night. Our oldest just cried and held her, telling her he knows she's a good dog and he will miss her.

We feel like we're doing the right thing, but it's really hard. We're having the vet (who actually happens to be our neighbor) take her in this morning to put her down. Sad day!

[iwakeboard]

So Schatzi attacked Missy again yesterday. We've been keeping them realtively well apart and really working with Schatzi. We talked to the vet at length. He said since she has fought and broke skin before this and she doesn't seem to be letting up, along with her snapping at the kids and my wife, he sees an escalating pattern that concerns him. My wife and I talked a lot about it and decided the best thing to do was to have her put down. We broke the news to the boys last night. Our oldest is really having a hard time. We had the boys spend time loving on her last night. Our oldest just cried and held her, telling her he knows she's a good dog and he will miss her.

We feel like we're doing the right thing, but it's really hard. We're having the vet (who actually happens to be our neighbor) take her in this morning to put her down. Sad day!

You made the right decision, nonetheless. I'm only in my first year of law school but we've already covered dangerous animals and if it's ever shown any dangerous propensities you could be held liable, you made a smart decision. Time to go looking for a new one :)

[TayTay]

I'm sorry about that Okie. Getting a dog put down is really hard, but sometimes it is just for the best. She will be in a better place now.

[Okie Boarder]

Started a new thread (https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?p=30040#post30040) so I don't hijack this one too much and make it sad. Keep posting the fun pics of the dogs on the water. We'd love to be able to take a dog out with us. Our older dog Missy is just too skiddish and old and she doesn't seem to enjoy it. Maybe we can find a new dog to teach from the start to love the water.

[KY Steve]

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[Okie Boarder]

Sweet pic. Anyone ever gotten a dog to do the surfboard?

[KY Steve]

Sweet pic. Anyone ever gotten a dog to do the surfboard?

I'll get pics as soon as we hit the water.

[Okie Boarder]

Speaking of dogs and the water, and since we're going to be looking, should we be considering any particular breeds?

Missy is a mutt, but is mostly a Yorkie Poo. We love her temperment, especially with the kids. She doesn't like the water much, but she also wasn't around it until just a few years ago.

Are all dogs capable of being good lake / boat dogs if you bring them along from an early age?

[Salty87]

Are all dogs capable of being good lake / boat dogs if you bring them along from an early age?

yes and no. most dogs will get used to riding on a boat if started young but some are NOT good swimmers...very lean dogs tend to sink more than swim. boxers, dobermans, etc.



ps i've deleted a post or 2. please keep the discussion civil.

[Okie Boarder]

Good to know. We'll be doing some research. We really love Missy's temperment and definitely want to find a dog that is kind with her and good with the kids. It would be nice to integrate it into our lake activities too.

[cmtaylor777]

I think its all about the dog. Sure, there are breeds that LOVE the water, but in all I think it is how you introduce the dog to the water. I have had 5 Rots now and 2 of them loved the water and the rest didn't. We didn't do anything to push them in either way . I think if you introduce them early, the dog will learn from there.
One thought..... Steer away from English Bull dogs if you want them around water. These dogs DON'T swim for the most part. A friend of mine brought his on the boat and the dog decided to jump in. We didn't think much about it when it happened, but the dog never came back up. They sink!!! Something about the body being so big and the legs being too small. They can't swim hard enough to hold themselves up. Since then I have had 2 friends lose their English Bulldogs to drowning. Even after I warned them. They are cute amazing dogs. Just not in the swimming field.

[jzelt]

Sorry for the comment, but I am finding the bulldog "sinking" funny if it was a good outcome...(Dog)Hey..I'm hot and thristy, watch this...blub blub.....(Friend) Is he going to come up? (Other friend)Don't know...Doesn't look like it...

Anyways, we have a lab/husky mix and he has webbed paws. Had him since a pup. We took him with neighbors dogs to ponds and he just ran into the water after watching them chasing balls and swimming. I think having other dogs around kind of showed him it is fun.

Can't keep him out of the water no matter what the temperature. (or snow).

Good luck in your search. I would recommend a mix of lab of some sort and they seem to be gentle mannered and love the outdoors as much or more.

[Okie Boarder]

Well...this happened rather suddenly. We've made a list of several breeds and had it a bit narrowed down, so the search would begin. I went by Petsmart after Home Depot earlier, and just fell in love with this guy. He is a Poodle and Terrier mix about 1.5 years old. Awesome personality and seems very loving and well behaved. I took the wife and kids to see him and there really wasn't any question. He is a rescue dog that was discovered in someone's barn in a small town nearby. It was with a family for a while, but seemed to try to "go after" their cats a little too much for their liking so he just went back to the rescue last week.

Say hello to Alvin.

We're looking forward to him being a special part of our family. Missy isn't too sure about him yet, but I'm sure she will grow to love him.

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[Salty87]

cute looking pup. good for you guys for giving him a home. we bought our last dog from a breeder but i think that will be the last time we bother paying so much for a dog when so many need a home.

[Okie Boarder]

Salty,

I agree. I'd rather go that route. I brought our neighbor (vet) over last night to meet him. He feels the dog was a good choice for us and we got pretty lucky finding a dog like that through a rescue group. He was surprised how well he behaves with strangers...he actually rolled into a submissive position while he was being looked at. A lot of dogs won't do that, our neighbor said.

[Okie Boarder]

Well, "Alvin" seems to be fitting in well and seems like a very well behaved dog. He seems to have gotten quickly attached to my wife and gets upset when she isn't around...LOL!

We're throwing around the idea of changing his name. He's only been "Alvin" since the previous family had him so it probably wouldn't be too hard to get him to adapt.

We'll see what happens.

Bath time went well the other day so we're thinking he doesn't appear to really be "afraid" of the water. We're interested to see how he would do on te boat and being on the water.

Also, as far as the cat thing...I'm not real sure what the issue was. We have an outside cat and we took him out to meet her. He didn't seem real interested in pursuing her. Maybe it would be a little different if they were in the same house.

[Okie Boarder]

Here's some new pictures and a video. This dog seems like a great fit for us and we're really enjoying him. We've noticed that he tends to cower a fair amount when I discipline him, telling him no or whatever. Much more than if my wife does. My oldest picked something up last night and lifted it up (like you would do with a rolled newspaper) and the dog also cowered. We're wondering if he was treated harshly and that's why he was found in that barn in the first place. We'll work through that with a lot of love. You can tell he is really sensitive. I don't even have to raise my voice to him...a calm "NO" when he does something wrong is all that is needed.

My wife took him on a walk to get the boys from school the other day and he barked at one of the neighbor girls quite aggressively when she came up to pet him. We're not sure what that was all about. I talked to the parents last night and they are all going to come by for a visit to see him and we'll see if he reacts differently. He may have just felt uncomfortable or something. He didn't do the same thing to any of the other kids.

Any suggestions on helping him get over the cowering?

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[Okie Boarder]

Here's the video...

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