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dshaff24
05-02-2010, 04:24 PM
Im trying to finish up loose ends on my motor maintence b4 I start on anything else and im looking in the manual and it says 4 qts on my 351!! Thats not to much compared to my jeep 6 cyl and my trucks 8, Also it says the only way to check it is when the boats in the water? lol The oil pan has a hose on it that im putting through the hull and draining it but Im not just going to assume there is no oil left in it and put 4 qts in it and not be able to check it!! and have the oil level up above the crank!

Just looking for some experience on this! I know its no biggie but I just like to do things once and call it a day!

Any tricks to checking the oil level out of the water and on the trailer?

Does it really only take 4 qts? Thats less then my old 4 cyl car took!

Okie Boarder
05-02-2010, 06:24 PM
I found it takes between 4 and 5 quarts. Put in 4 to get yourself going and then top it off from there.

csuggs
05-02-2010, 09:14 PM
Yep - like Okie said. About 4.5 quarts with filter change.

michael hunter
05-03-2010, 09:14 AM
This is news to me maybe I have been doing it wrong all these years. I use the drain hose through the hull. I start in the evening and let it drain overnight. Then I change the filter and put in 5qts of synthetic oil, run it on a hose check it and forget it. I dont mind if it is a little over it doesnt bother anything.

87SunSportMikeyD
05-03-2010, 12:21 PM
I do the exact same thing Michael Hunter does. This year I may run it on the hose before I drain the oil, to let it warm up. Heard it will drain much faster that way.

wotan2525
05-03-2010, 02:52 PM
I do the exact same thing Michael Hunter does. This year I may run it on the hose before I drain the oil, to let it warm up. Heard it will drain much faster that way.

Waaaay faster! Or get one of these and do it in 5 minutes.... http://www.amazon.com/Flotec-FPDMP21SA-P2-Self-Priming-Drill/dp/B000FKF5WI

DGREEN
05-03-2010, 11:23 PM
I changed my oil this weekend and thought I was doing something wrong, i've never seen anything drain so slow in my entire life! Good lord.... Glad to see I'm not alone!

csuggs
05-04-2010, 10:16 AM
Mechanic's general rule of thumb: change the oil when it's hot. I change mine after the last outing of the season - as soon as I get the boat back in the garage and the motor is still warm - drains quickly then. If you put in 5 quarts of oil it probably doesn't hurt too much but it will show over-full on the dipstick. I always go with 4-1/2 quarts.

techsledder
05-04-2010, 01:48 PM
Mechanic's general rule of thumb: change the oil when it's hot.
Ditto...
ALL my vehicles oil changes are when the engine's good and hot. It also gets any bad particles re-suspended in the oil and to drain out. Otherwise the sludge can just build up on the bottom of the engine's oil pan.

dshaff24
05-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Yeah thats what I normally would do but this motor isn't all hooked up to what little electronics it takes to start it yet, The manual also says the same but i changed it cold due to the conditions! Next time

techsledder
05-04-2010, 03:42 PM
Although... My dad has a magnetic oil pan heater (AC wall plug in unit) he uses for his tractors in the winter to aid in starting when it's wicked cold out. It works for a small 30hp diesel engine, I'd imagine that'd heat 'er up real fast in the summer months ... just a thought. Probably over kill, but if you really wanted to heat up your oil before the change before draining it.

jet
05-06-2010, 10:34 AM
Heres how I change mine. Get the boat loaded and have the wife put on the small bikini and head to the lake. Wakeboard all day have a few margaritas, watch the wife sunbath and then come home. Then drain the oil while Its HOT, still takes a hr or so. Done! My way is way better. lol. Jet

synthetic all the way baby!

saltare inverts
05-06-2010, 12:22 PM
Jet, may come with you the next time you change your oil. I'm not sure I completely understand how it's done.

techsledder
05-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Jet, may come with you the next time you change your oil. I'm not sure I completely understand how it's done.

^ :mrgreen: ^

sybrmike
05-06-2010, 03:47 PM
Sounds like it's time for an oil changing party at Jet's place...

jet
05-06-2010, 03:57 PM
Lmao...............

Okie Boarder
05-06-2010, 04:32 PM
I thin I definitely need to adjust my method and incorporate those ideas!

docdrs
05-06-2010, 05:34 PM
buy a suction unit with diff size hoses, then you can drain your tranny and v drive as well. It pays for it self first fluid change and what a time saver

Okie Boarder
05-07-2010, 12:00 PM
Suction unit? Isn't that just another word for wife? ;-)

sybrmike
05-07-2010, 01:27 PM
Unfortunately, not after 18 years of marriage :(

Mani
05-07-2010, 02:44 PM
LMAO!! That's hilarious.

Okie Boarder
05-07-2010, 03:28 PM
Unfortunately, not after 18 years of marriage :(

We need to have a little talk with your wife. ;-)

TX skier
05-09-2010, 09:06 PM
OK, I have the tank to pull a vacuum on to drain the oil. I also have the quick drain tube from the bottom of the oil pan. The quick drain does not reach out the hull drain so I can't drain into a can. What type of connector do I need to attach the vacuum tank to the drain hose? This seems like a way to be sure to get all the oil out.

Also, the gauges are intermittant. They energize when you turn on the key, work for a while, and then die. Sometimes they come back, sometimes they don't. My guess loose wire somewhere, I'll have to search.

1999 Santera, bought spring 09

David Smith

P.S. Exquisite is magic stuff

jet
05-09-2010, 10:38 PM
Yeah..but today was a holiday!! :p

supratj
05-10-2010, 06:00 PM
Any issues with changes to synthetic after 20 years? Only 342 hrs on 351PCM

jet
05-10-2010, 11:25 PM
Nope! Now it my find a bad or cracked gasket before regular oil would, but no probs. Jet