Supra Launch 22 V Worlds Package vs Tige RZ2 loaded

[Gannon]

I'm not sure if anyone would be able to help but I sure would appreciate it. I am in the market for a new boat and these are they two I have narrowed my choices down to. I was just hoping someone could give me some insight on pros and cons on each boat on this like resale value, wake profile, use as a family boat, smoothness of ride on choppy water, handeling, etc. Any comments or insight would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Gannon

[docdrs]

hard to comment on ride comparison......but looking at the specs ......its a heavier boat ...but has a great prop on it.assuming its the acme..and the 343hp......if its loaded with wetsounds tower and cock pit then it will blow away the supra stereo wise, does it have the underwater transom light? heater? dual batttery?...... what is the price difference between the boats, what ballast does it have? it doesn't have playpen and center observers seat which allows for increased center ballast. but it looks like a good boat...and for surfing tige is suppose to be right up there.....family wise i would think both are comparable.....personally i think the supra is a little more nimble than other boats but just my experience......don't think you will lose either way

[Skylar18]

When I bought my Supra in 2008 my final choice was between my Supra and the Tige. Both good boats but thought the Supra seemed a bit more solid and the Tige was about 10k more than my Supra.

Don't think you could make a wrong choice!

[ssmith]

What are you going to be mostly using it for? I think Supra is a great all around boat as is the Tige. However, the Tige has an amazing surf wake. I've not experienced this personally but have watched a lot of vids and seen many pics...IMPRESSIVE. Both are amazing boats and you can't go wrong. Isn't it great to be faced with decisions like these?

[Fman]

Are they 2010 models? Both are awesome boats, I like how the RZ2 has 102" beam and picklefork bow, its heavier at 4100+ lbs (3800 lbs-Supra), the Supra is a little longer at 22' 6". I dont like the Tige towers, and think there graphics packages and boat body style look horrible. The worlds package is fantastic on the Supra, no Z-5 on the Tige (cant be ordered for that boat), and the VISION is comparable to the Tige Touch. The Supra worlds will come loaded with every option available, not sure what Tige' offers on there boat upgrades.

And are the boats loaded comparably? warranty duration? is price an issue? difference between two? who is your closest dealer? If I were you, I would go out and drive both, get pulled behind both of them, use the ballast systems, spend some time in each boat. Its a huge, expensive purchase, make sure and spend as much time as possible in each boat. As others mentioned, I dont think you can make a bad choice, they are both great boats.

That being said, and owning an '08 22 SSV, I myself would go with the Supra Worlds, thats a dream boat for me, and I think they just look sick.

[Gannon]

hard to comment on ride comparison......but looking at the specs ......its a heavier boat ...but has a great prop on it.assuming its the acme..and the 343hp......if its loaded with wetsounds tower and cock pit then it will blow away the supra stereo wise, does it have the underwater transom light? heater? dual batttery?...... what is the price difference between the boats, what ballast does it have? it doesn't have playpen and center observers seat which allows for increased center ballast. but it looks like a good boat...and for surfing tige is suppose to be right up there.....family wise i would think both are comparable.....personally i think the supra is a little more nimble than other boats but just my experience......don't think you will lose either way

I'm not sure on the underwater transom light, it is loaded with wetsounds, doesnt have a heater but i'm not worried about that. price wise the supra is 1500 more, no biggie there. the Tige has 2000 lb ballast, and the Supra worlds has the gravity III, correct me if i'm wrong.

I will mainly use the boat for wakeboarding but will slalom some and am starting out wakesurfing.

[Gannon]

Are they 2010 models? Both are awesome boats, I like how the RZ2 has 102" beam and picklefork bow, its heavier at 4100+ lbs (3800 lbs-Supra), the Supra is a little longer at 22' 6". I dont like the Tige towers, and think there graphics packages and boat body style look horrible. The worlds package is fantastic on the Supra, no Z-5 on the Tige (cant be ordered for that boat), and the VISION is comparable to the Tige Touch. The Supra worlds will come loaded with every option available, not sure what Tige' offers on there boat upgrades.

And are the boats loaded comparably? warranty duration? is price an issue? difference between two? who is your closest dealer? If I were you, I would go out and drive both, get pulled behind both of them, use the ballast systems, spend some time in each boat. Its a huge, expensive purchase, make sure and spend as much time as possible in each boat. As others mentioned, I dont think you can make a bad choice, they are both great boats.

That being said, and owning an '08 22 SSV, I myself would go with the Supra Worlds, thats a dream boat for me, and I think they just look sick.

The boats are loaded comparably as they can get em. Of course the Worlds Supra has all the bells and whistles. I actually like Tigetouch better than the supra Vision, a little more user friendly. The dealer said he would want to throw the wetsounds speakers on the Supra and would hook us up on that. Does the playpen area make the boat feel more crowded with 10+ people on board? I'm concerned that with the decreased walk space it would be a bit cluttered.

[KG's Supra24]

I haven't looked into the Tige too much but just to throw in a little insight ...

I looked at supra exclusively for the Z5. I feel like it is one of the best options on any boat out there. Provides no hassle shading and the utitily is great. We usually throw a tube up there and it is completely out of the way.

I also like the playpen, althought there is less walkroom, the boat is almost like one giant pillow. The wife is also a huge fan since her favorite place to sit is up front. 3 or 4 girls can sit up there once you lift the seat. She also enjoys laying up there (in the middle) looking back to watch riders. It really is a great space. Plus you can get a lot more ballast in the boat. Comes in real handy on a rough day because you can fill the sac up and the boat rides across the chop much better.

Stereo seems to be a mute point.

Fly high soft bags in the Supra are great because they are easily upgraded, which you will want to do when you start surfing.

As for the looks, i personally like the classic look up the Supra but the new pickleforks do stand out in a crowd.

As others mentioned, great boat either way. Go drive both, is it the same dealer. Where are you located now that i think about it, our Supra dealer just started carrying Tige.

If this is the toughest decision you have to make this summer .. life must be good. :)

[iwakeboard]

I've ridden and driven both of these boats several times and they are quality boats, Tige has stepped it up in recent years. A couple of things:

Tige:
Pros-
* Their version of Perfect Pass is AWESOME, it's extremely smooth and precise, engages flawlessly and made me go, "Wow" when I drove it for the first time.
* Very smooth ride, deals well w/ the chop
* Surf wake is unreal, hard to compare the 22 wake to it (or my 24)
* One of THE best looking boats out there
* Absolutely love the Alpha Z tower with the built in docking lights and nav-light/ski-tow swivel fixture.

Cons-
*Fit & Finish--though they've stepped it up I do not personally like the fabric they're using for the upholstery. I'm a bigger fan of the Supra material
*Wasn't a fan of the wakeboarding wake, I think it took too much extra weight to generate what the 22 can generate with factory ballast.
* Wasn't a fan of their web-back captains chair
* The cushion that covers the walk-thru is cheap and easy to lose, so is the two back cushions across the back bench.
* Have to upgrade the ballast system to get a comparable amount of weight to the factory Supra ballast
* Thing was a pig to trailer, I'm not sure why this was but my 24 tows alot better than the RZ2.

Supra:
Pros
*Sick, predictable and reliable wakeboarding wake
*Quality fit and finish (Jony would disagree)
*Can replace the factory bags with ginormous ones and you can still hide it all away
*Love the interior carpeting
*Love the playpen
*Clean and streamlined styling
*Love the Supra Vision, but Tige has a version of this now too though I've never really played with

Cons
* The ballast level gauges don't accurately measure the amount of water in the tank. Mine doesn't have this and I don't even think anyone really needs it but I've seen it work sometimes and not work.
* um.....something else? :D Oh, factory stereo is lacking! Um...

[Gannon]

I haven't looked into the Tige too much but just to throw in a little insight ...

I looked at supra exclusively for the Z5. I feel like it is one of the best options on any boat out there. Provides no hassle shading and the utitily is great. We usually throw a tube up there and it is completely out of the way.

I also like the playpen, althought there is less walkroom, the boat is almost like one giant pillow. The wife is also a huge fan since her favorite place to sit is up front. 3 or 4 girls can sit up there once you lift the seat. She also enjoys laying up there (in the middle) looking back to watch riders. It really is a great space. Plus you can get a lot more ballast in the boat. Comes in real handy on a rough day because you can fill the sac up and the boat rides across the chop much better.

Stereo seems to be a mute point.

Fly high soft bags in the Supra are great because they are easily upgraded, which you will want to do when you start surfing.

As for the looks, i personally like the classic look up the Supra but the new pickleforks do stand out in a crowd.

As others mentioned, great boat either way. Go drive both, is it the same dealer. Where are you located now that i think about it, our Supra dealer just started carrying Tige.

If this is the toughest decision you have to make this summer .. life must be good. :)
I'm located in arkadelphia, yea diamond lakes watersports in hot springs is where
We went, some really nice guys there.

[KG's Supra24]

Ok, im right up I-30 from you. You could not ask for a better dealership!! They know their stuff and seem to really enjoy what the do. I hope they read that above. I need my boat worked on this week ASAP!!!

I dont think you can go wrong either way. I personally like the look of the supra more, clean and simple. If you like the kinda wild look, buy that demo boat from them. Thats a very nice wrap.

http://www.diamondlakeswatersports.com/inboard_closeouts.htm

Are they pushing you either direction? I'd be interested to know what they are saying. In fact, I might just ask them tomorrow.

What lake do you normally go to? Nice to have someone on here from the area.

[Gannon]

Ok, im right up I-30 from you. You could not ask for a better dealership!! They know their stuff and seem to really enjoy what the do. I hope they read that above. I need my boat worked on this week ASAP!!!

I dont think you can go wrong either way. I personally like the look of the supra more, clean and simple. If you like the kinda wild look, buy that demo boat from them. Thats a very nice wrap.

http://www.diamondlakeswatersports.com/inboard_closeouts.htm

Are they pushing you either direction? I'd be interested to know what they are saying. In fact, I might just ask them tomorrow.

What lake do you normally go to? Nice to have someone on here from the area.

Yea we really liked everybody we talked to there, they seemed very knowledgable but weren't going to talk over your head or push you either way. They were really "pushing" us towards either boat. We weren't there too long we were just checking em out and getting some prices, but they seemed to be able to tell us more about the supra worlds vs the RZ2, but i think it's because they haven't been dealing the Tiges long.

I am constantly on Lake DeGray. We have a houseboat here, in fact I'm living on it this summer haha. I make my way to Lake Hamilton every now and then and Greers Ferry lake as well.

[KG's Supra24]

I'll PM you ..

Yea, they just started dealing Tige. Its a pretty young group over there but they do seem knowledgable.

[jonyb]

You came to a Supra site and asked about a Tige?

Did you go to the Tige website and ask about Supras?

Go to the boat dealers and demo both boats. The only question you should have here is "how well do they hold up after using them for a year or 2?"

No one on the innanetz can tell you whats best for you. Go to the dealer. The dealer can also make or break the brand if they're not worth a crap.

[KG's Supra24]

Dealer sells both and is a great dealer. They do have more experience with Supra, though.

[Gannon]

You came to a Supra site and asked about a Tige?

Did you go to the Tige website and ask about Supras?

Go to the boat dealers and demo both boats. The only question you should have here is "how well do they hold up after using them for a year or 2?"

No one on the innanetz can tell you whats best for you. Go to the dealer. The dealer can also make or break the brand if they're not worth a crap.

Just thought you guys would have some insight, and so far everyone has been helpful. My next step is to demo both. But since this is a Supra site, How well would the Supra hold up after using them for a year or 2? Upholstery looks to be some of the best in the business, and im sure the indmar engine is a hell of an engine.

[Fman]

The boats are loaded comparably as they can get em. Of course the Worlds Supra has all the bells and whistles. I actually like Tigetouch better than the supra Vision, a little more user friendly. The dealer said he would want to throw the wetsounds speakers on the Supra and would hook us up on that. Does the playpen area make the boat feel more crowded with 10+ people on board? I'm concerned that with the decreased walk space it would be a bit cluttered.

I would opt for a boat with all the bells and whistles, the heater is great to have, we use it all the time. The wetsounds system you mentioned in a different message would be a great upgrade. I have the walk thru bow on my boat, if I were to order a custom Supra I would probably go with the playpen because you can add a ton of weight in the front. I dont think it would be a big deal having the playpen and having people sit comfortably. With the walk thru you can only really get 400 lbs of weight up there without adding another bag in the storage compartments. I believe you get 1100 lbs with the playpen.

Have not used the Tige Touch, but I know people have had some positive feedback on the Supra VISION. On my '08 the perfect pass works flawlessly, it holds speed very well and I never have any problems with it. Even towing 6wakeboarders it held at 18mph with no problems. I also like how Supra uses one piece front windows to avoid having a distraction right in your line of site looking out the side window.

I second the Z-5, I will never own another boat without one. It comes in so handy and keeps in the inside of the boat clutter free, its amazing how much equipment you can store on it. The rad-a-cage tower is VERY SOLID, I am not sure how strong the new Supra progressive tower is. Grab both of them and give them a good shake. The Tige 22Ve tower I was looking at wobbled much more than the rad-a-cage.

Do you have any pictures of the boats? colors? Like I said both are great boats, if you have any pictures post them up.

[Fman]

Just thought you guys would have some insight, and so far everyone has been helpful. My next step is to demo both. But since this is a Supra site, How well would the Supra hold up after using them for a year or 2? Upholstery looks to be some of the best in the business, and im sure the indmar engine is a hell of an engine.

The vinyl SC is using is very good, its Syntech vinyl with nano-technology and gore tenara threads and is extremely stain resistant, take a look at the following link, I did a stain test on a sample piece of vinyl. After 2 years/190 hours of use my upholstry still looks brand new.

https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?t=6378&highlight=stain

The Indmar motor is top of the line, and with the 14 pitch wboard prop does a great job of plaining the boat quickly. Not sure what prop and motor Tige is using, probably just as good.

[tg0824SSVGG]

One thing to clarify - at least in 08, a 24 foot Supra was REALLY 24 feet long (not counting the platform) - I think all models were the "advertised" length in 08 and after, maybe even in 07.

Most other manufacturers still go with a 23' model being 22' 6" etc.

Not that it matters THAT much, but just clarifying.

[Fman]

One thing to clarify - at least in 08, a 24 foot Supra was REALLY 24 feet long (not counting the platform) - I think all models were the "advertised" length in 08 and after, maybe even in 07.

Most other manufacturers still go with a 23' model being 22' 6" etc.

Not that it matters THAT much, but just clarifying.

This is very true, the '07 MC X-15 is listed as a 22' boat, and is really 21' 6", and the Supra 22V is 22'6"...both w/out platforms on them. This was evident when I moored up at the dock next to one and my stern was sticking out considerably more on the dock.

[Gannon]

This is very true, the '07 MC X-15 is listed as a 22' boat, and is really 21' 6", and the Supra 22V is 22'6"...both w/out platforms on them. This was evident when I moored up at the dock next to one and my stern was sticking out considerably more on the dock.
I did notice that the supra would be a little bit longer and also weighs a little less that the tige. Tbh I'm leaning towards the supra because of the z5 rack and the playpen. Ill just have to see how it drives

[RickT]

Gannon,

Hope you do get to drive both boats. Jon and his team at Diamond Lakes will take great care of you. One of our highest rated dealers in the world in customer service. If we can be of any assistance from the factory, please do not hestitate to drop us a note.

Good Luck in your search.... But I would buy the Supra. :)

Rick Tinker
Skier's Choice

[docdrs]

WOW, there ya go Gannon , the president of Skiers Choice.. Rick Tinker is even trying to help ya out.....How are ya doing on the Tige website??

[Jon]

Thanks for the kind words everybody.

Gannon, thanks for stopping in the dealership this past week and talking with my guys. Sorry I was not there as I was on vacation this past week. I would be happy to take you out in the boats any time. I will pm you my cell number. Feel free to call me any time.

KG's Supra24,

Give us a call tomorrow and we will take care of you. We are staying open extra hours this week to make sure everyone is on the water for the 4th. We will open at 9 all week and will probably be working past sundown every day. Pm me if you need my cell. Thanks



Jon
DLWS

[docdrs]

the playpen is nice also for the extra observers seat.....and the z5 is tops for surfboards and sun protection....... do i sound biased? Robert at wake9.com gives thumbs up to tige , but then he comes with his own ballast.....I love that guy he is such a posi and so cool for the surfing community....I just wanna know if he surf's

[jonyb]

But since this is a Supra site, How well would the Supra hold up after using them for a year or 2? Upholstery looks to be some of the best in the business, and im sure the indmar engine is a hell of an engine.

My interior was falling apart until I replaced all the self-tapping screws that SC built it with. All the folding panels lasted about a year before all the screws backed out or fell out completely.

Engine is fine, except for when they mounted the fuel pump to the motor and we all had vaporlocking problems. I believe that's fixed now though.

A few people on here have also had problems with their swim platform brackets breaking off the boat while the boat was in the water.

Just a few points you should know. I know no one else on here will say it....

[KG's Supra24]

Jon and his team at Diamond Lakes will take great care of you. One of our highest rated dealers in the world in customer service.


Rick Tinker
Skier's Choice




KG's Supra24,

Give us a call tomorrow and we will take care of you. We are staying open extra hours this week to make sure everyone is on the water for the 4th. We will open at 9 all week and will probably be working past sundown every day. Pm me if you need my cell. Thanks


Jon
DLWS

Well these have me grinning ear to ear!!!

[Gannon]

Gannon,

Hope you do get to drive both boats. Jon and his team at Diamond Lakes will take great care of you. One of our highest rated dealers in the world in customer service. If we can be of any assistance from the factory, please do not hestitate to drop us a note.

Good Luck in your search.... But I would buy the Supra. :)

Rick Tinker
Skier's Choice



Thanks for the kind words everybody.

Gannon, thanks for stopping in the dealership this past week and talking with my guys. Sorry I was not there as I was on vacation this past week. I would be happy to take you out in the boats any time. I will pm you my cell number. Feel free to call me any time.

KG's Supra24,

Give us a call tomorrow and we will take care of you. We are staying open extra hours this week to make sure everyone is on the water for the 4th. We will open at 9 all week and will probably be working past sundown every day. Pm me if you need my cell. Thanks



Jon
DLWS

Wow thanks so much guys. Just hearing this from you two guys makes me want the Supra. Thanks for everybody's help and advice. Jon you will be hearing from me soon.

[Fman]

My interior was falling apart until I replaced all the self-tapping screws that SC built it with. All the folding panels lasted about a year before all the screws backed out or fell out completely.

Engine is fine, except for when they mounted the fuel pump to the motor and we all had vaporlocking problems. I believe that's fixed now though.

A few people on here have also had problems with their swim platform brackets breaking off the boat while the boat was in the water.

Just a few points you should know. I know no one else on here will say it....

I have also had a few problems, but all were taken care of by Skiers Choice, Indmar or Roswell. The swivel board racks replaced, walk thru platform above ski locker had screws replaced with bolt/locking nut, faulty o2 sensor replaced on motor, front nav lights leaking water had to be removed and resealed, and my rudder last year had a hairline crack that was replaced by SC.

The new 2010 swivel board racks are much better than the '08s, and these were all little items that like I said have been repaired. My biggest gripe about my boat was ballast fill/drain system that never worked properly since I purchased the boat. However, since '08 has been greatly improved, unfortunately SC would not upgrade my ballast system to the '09 setup so I had to do re-do the entire system myself.

[jonyb]

The new 2010 swivel board racks are much better than the '08s, and these were all little items that like I said have been repaired. My biggest gripe about my boat was ballast fill/drain system that never worked properly since I purchased the boat. However, since '08 has been greatly improved, unfortunately SC would not upgrade my ballast system to the '09 setup so I had to do re-do the entire system myself.

I ended up going through Roswell myself to get the racks swapped out. Ballast, still worthless. SC said they'd replace that bad parts, but I told them I'd rather have no ballast then to have a something that belonged in the grass. I was offered the upgraded ballast, but it was gonna be at least $600 with me installing. I'd rather install it myself after seeing the job done on other boats.