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Okie Boarder
11-03-2010, 11:58 AM
Did y'all vote? Feelings about the outcome?

I like how it came out, but would have liked to see the R's take the senate too. I'm really hoping we will see a strong "true conservative" approach out of these folks. I'd like to see a stop to the spending going on and a good approach to managing our economy back into the black, along with our deficit.

Mani
11-03-2010, 08:32 PM
Couldn't agree more, Okie.

Blackntan90
11-11-2010, 09:02 PM
Thats for sure!

viking
11-11-2010, 10:41 PM
Hmmmmm.........how do I feel?
Might get me blasted but -

Okie Boarder
11-12-2010, 11:40 AM
:lol::lol::lol:

wotan2525
11-12-2010, 12:09 PM
I'd agree with you guys if I actually thought anyone elected will be able to accomplish anything even remotely related to their "fiscally conservative" promises. Cutting taxes is not the same as cutting spending. The right needs to figure this out or we'll just continue to spiral the drain while listening to the constant bickering between two clueless parties.

And Russ Feingold (the only senator worth a damn -- if you've never read about how principaled and honest the guy is, you should) was defeated by a guy that ran on a promise of being a conservative -- but has built his business and personal wealth on government programs. It's incredibly depressing.

Voters hearts were in the right places... but they were plain duped.

KG's Supra24
11-15-2010, 12:39 PM
^^^ if this were facebook, I'd "like this".

Okie Boarder
11-15-2010, 06:41 PM
wotan,

I agree. The key thing I'm going to be watching for is conservatives being truly conservatives, not "compromising" and shifting to the liberal side to appease.

87SunSportMikeyD
11-16-2010, 01:42 PM
I would +1 wotans post. There were a lot of good public servants ousted for little cause. I dont really believe the republicans want to do anything different except give big tax breaks to the rich and big corporations. Then they will block any spending that is designed to help the middle class.

If I could make a prediction; we'll get a real feel for how they will use their newfound power when the time comes to FINALLY do some real good negotiating legislation for the foreclosure crisis. Will they grant the power for consumers to renegotiate their mortgages when the value of their house is now lower than the balance of their mortgage? Or will we continue to force record numbers of people out of their homes instead of negotiating? If the houses are empty, they aren't making ANY money for the banks.

Okie Boarder
11-16-2010, 02:02 PM
My personal view is that I will be watching republicans to see that they provide real solutions to bring us back more to a free market driven economy and reduce the size of government. To me, that is conservative idealogy that I agree with. If they go right back to RINO (Republican In Name Only), they'll be looking for a job in another two years as far as my vote is concerned.

I agree that something could be done on the foreclosure front, but this is an area where I would say government should tread lightly. The moment you have Congress wrking with the banks to provide a solution to the people to keep their houses, you've just opened the door for a bail out. Banks don't want to lose money and if they are asked to change status quo to the consumer's benefit, they are going to want something in return from the government. That help in return is by way of taxpayers money and when you do that, you just diverted the problem to another entity that we all pay for anyway. If that is the plan, then I'd be against it and I'd rather let the cycle do what it is going to do without interfering. Foreclosures, bankruptcies and hard times happen. Trying to prevent them doesn't usually work and just delays the inevitable anyways.

Take a step back and look at a scenario for a second. Let's say I bought a house 8 years ago and my house payment is $1500 a month (total). This payment is affordable for me now just as it was when I bought the house. Let's say I bought the house for $180,000 and now it is worth $130,000. If I budgeted myself properly and my house payment is comfortable, why would I need to change anything. I just can't sell my house right now until the market recovers.

A bulk of the current problem with foreclosures isn't from people like the example. It's people that got a house that was more than they could barely afford with an adjustable mortgage and when they weren't able to refinance when the adjustment went up, they were in trouble. They took the risk and now they have to deal with the consequences. It was their choice. Let what happens, happen.

Would you expect that you could go gamble in Vegas and when you lose, the government is supposed to step in and negotiate with the casino to forgive or drastically reduce your loss?

ScottnAz
12-28-2010, 12:32 AM
Right or wrong, I think this Presidency was doomed to be a "lame-duck" term. In light of what was going on with the economy, I don't think there was a simple or quick resolution, Republican or Democratic. It just wasn't going to happen.

At this point, I think we're all just hoping for the best for ourselves. As terrible as it sounds. Personally, I'd like to see even more incentives, tax breaks, and lending to small business owners. And, I know the wealthy class are looking for less $$ in taxes. As, the unemployed are looking for longer benefits........ We're all looking out for #1, and can't fault anyone for that.

There, most definitely, is something wrong with our system. What the answer is, I don't know. I can just provide my experience and perspective. It is sickening to me that we have open positions for employment, and most guys would rather sit at home on unemployment. Few, and far between are the guys that take pride and responsibility in having a job, and working for a living. Our government has made it too easy to sit back and say, "poor me"! Believe me, we haven't had a fun time in the construction industry over the last few years, however, it's a fight, and always will be a fight, so it's like the old saying, "it's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog", and I feel that's what has become lost in today's society..... What happened to the fight and determination in today's worker..... government policies aside, it's up to us!!!

jet
12-31-2010, 02:42 PM
When I was 17 I asked my father what was a republican? Because the TV was talking about tax credits for the rich (that supply 50% of the jobs in America, government makes NOTHING!!) And I knew I wasn't apart of that group, we grew up in a house that was slim on money (dad was in the army, 4-kids). But that day I said I want to be a Republican, I wanted to be in that group, it gave me a target to strive for, it IS the American dream and HARD WORK is what put America on the map. Now, 5 businesses later, I'm not Rich, y'all have seen my budget boat, I'm too scared (there is a lot on the line) to buy something expensive right now. We live pay check to paycheck sometimes, all of our cars were bought used. What I do know is I WRITE BIG CHECKS EVERY MONTH and I keep the scraps it feels like. My gas bills (truck,car and boat, not including my wife's truck) for the month reach $600-$700. I directly help 4-other local companies stay alive..I do all of this without the governments help..you know why?? Because Its my life, its my business..Its my hard work. I don't need big brother coming in and TELLING me I'm making to much money and I need to spread that wealth to others that sit at home and watch TV, we give very well to our church and others. Do I want or need a TAX break for the RICH..YOUR DAMN RIGHT I DO! If I'm carrying all these companies and helping all of these people, and helping my local economy, I deserve it and need help. And That's through HARD WORK not just holding my hand out. I will only dump it right back into the economy, jump starting it back to where it once was. The Gov is only there to be working behind the scenes on what we agree on..NOT DRIVING THE BUS. Thats our job. Lets just say (in case you missed it) if this tread was a baseball game, I would be on 1st base not 3rd. lol. Drink well my friends.