86' supra sunsport rebuild

[bens250ex]

My top cap was a tight fit as well .

[lively]

More pics of Mrs. Lively taking the stripes off with a 3m eraser wheel ..
She really worked hard on that side .. And I am going to put new gaskets on the motor and paint her up before the new manifolds and trans go back together ..http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/8027d5ef.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/37d95bd5.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/ac5a5349.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/19e22aa6.jpg

[TitanTn]

Nice! You've got some good help. I recruited my kids for help, but you've stepped it up a notch.

Manifolds look good.

[Okie Boarder]

Looking good...oh and the boat progress is nice too.

[lively]

HA HA ! i tried to get her to show some butt , guess she's camera shy for yall lol ...

Upholstery is a pain in the rear .... but i can sew welt good now !! lol

[TitanTn]

... show some butt ... pain in the rear ....

Was that a pun? :)

[lively]

ha ha !!! Nice !! lol

[lively]

more pics coming http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/7bb1acdb.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/35b4aa6e.jpg

AND NOW HERE IS THE MOMENT WHERE U FIND OUT THAT YOU FORGOT TO PUT THE FRONT PUMP ORING BACK IN WHEN PRESSURE TESTING LOL
GLAD I TESTED IT NOW ! http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/c56e7a9f.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/ee1b8d2f.jpg

[wiatowski]

I see the light at the end of the tunnel! Looks great.

[jet]

Livley...I need you to sew some stuf for me later?? Keep the sewing machine out.

[lively]

jet - bring it on over , lol upholstery is something i hate doing !

[jet]

It only be the the dog-house and pass seat. But I will get her sea-worthy first and then I will bring the beer and girls and we will hang out and get-r-done!! I have a good supplier of material in downtown dallas, they have everything. Did you buy your material yet??

[lively]

yeah man i got it off ebay for 5.95 yard .. i did my dog house and it took some intricate template cutting to get the welt cord to line up with the body lines ... but ill save some
foam for when your ready ... I rebuilt all of my seats and using the old foam with some new foam as well ... just find your colors you like and i got the new singer 3500 sewing
machine with dual needles and welt foot attachment ... let me know ! (beer/girls/ but wheres the camera ?) lol

[Okie Boarder]

So how did you like using the eraser wheel. About ready to use that on mine and take the stripes off.

[TitanTn]

So how did you like using the eraser wheel. About ready to use that on mine and take the stripes off.

I used one on mine and it was wonderful.

[lively]

dude dont use anything else ! i use a heat gun and the wheel on the letters and front keel .. it works great and you can de stripe a boat in about 2 hours

[jet]

I used a razor and heat gun and it only took me 8-hrs.

You got it lively. Finally got my floor laid and glassed in.

[lively]

where is all the pics brother !! you can speak it but i dont see it !! lol huge milestone there !!

[lively]

slapping paint on the transhttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/0172d971.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/8ff1fd0f.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/f6d2f3db.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/4cdb1ea7.jpg

[jet]

Nice..the fun stuff and pic's coming soon. Hey what did you paint your bilge with??

[lively]

white gel coat .. but i might touch up with some rustoleum

[bens250ex]

looks good man, does the whole trans/bell housing just slide off the motor once you take out all the bolts that hold the bell housing?

[lively]

Yeah man just bolt it up

[lively]

Took the boat off the trailer to finish up the sanding .. http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/af18ee02.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/75cf9f1a.jpg

[lively]

Well ladies and gentleman ! I understand now why interior people charge so much for there work ... geeez ... sewing welt cord to vinyl is a pain in the rear !
I said screw it and took it to an upholster in town .. only 1200.00 for a complete job include my corner seat and the two added side panels to cover the fire extinguisher hole
and the old tower mounts entry ...

also i bought the paint and taking it to get block sanded and sprayed this weekend said i should have it next week some time !!!
i got 1 gallon of SM1000 white/gloss
1 gallon of white etching prime
orange
grey
thinner
stereo and amps are in the mail and along with seals bunk carpet , wiring fuse panel ... ect ect .. lets just say im bringing her back to life and waxing her to a shine !
i cant believe how far i have come and what this 8/9 months has brought me ... i thank all of yall for the support and help along the way ... i will post some pics as soon as she is back from paint !! get ready !

[TitanTn]

Waiting with baited breath. Sounds like it'd going to be awesome!

[jet]

Keep the pic's comin.

[Salty87]

can't wait to see how she turns out. you will have done a tremendous amount of work!

the new guys around here have really stepped up to the plate this off-season with some big projects. sybrmike and others rocking theirs too. love it. jet...so close.

[DAFF]

I second the notion of lots of love given out by the new guys.... Its not a boat but rather a part of the family for many of us. Passing mine on was hard to do but easyer to take when you see the effort put into the old boats.

[wiatowski]

Aaaahhhh! Group hug! :D

On that note holy crap I've posted enough to be a senior member... shut the front door!

[lively]

Aaaahhhh! Group hug! :D

On that note holy crap I've posted enough to be a senior member... shut the front door!

ha ha ha !!

[lively]

thanks guys i plan to get the most bang for my buck ... i think all together i could have bought a new boat and paid payments , but with the sunsport im giving
her flavor and some new ink .... I like old school lines they cant be re created but they can be fixed and customized ... but im like a kid in the candy shop when it comes to topless women and goodtimes on the lake on my Bad A$$ Lively made supra ! lol ...

[DAFF]

Lively talking topless women meaning your Sunsport without the Bimini....

[TitanTn]

Lively talking topless women meaning your Sunsport without the Bimini....

Huh. I missed that. I had something else conjured up in my head. Thanks for clarifying.

[lively]

Exactly !! Lol

[lively]

JUST A LITTLE UPDATE ... MOTOR PAINTED , SEALS REPLACED , MANIFOLDS&RISERS INSTALLED ..http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/9be09a8a.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/7f63b4fb.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/7e3ce242.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/19110a64.jpg

[lively]

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/d5b483e3.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/9e754a3e.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/e678e27b.jpg.. THATS ALOT OF WEIGHT ON THAT LITTLE OLD STAND OF MINE .. LOL

[wiatowski]

Looks awesome! how long before the boat is painted?

[lively]

im putting her back on the trailer tomorrow and taking it 50 miles to my painter ... he is going to block sand it to get my swirls and smooth it out ... and should have it back next week

[jet]

nice work my man, nice work. Git-R done!!

[lively]

Well I dropped her off at my painter, he had 2 boats that just got sprayed and they looked awesome! !
I'm using supermarine paint SM1000 and white/grey/burnt orange are the colors ... said it would be a week and a half till iver her back ....
cannot wait to see what she looks like!

[lively]

Took a couple snaps shots of what has done already !!! http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/54a3f983.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/850a6cdb.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/468c6684.jpg

[project_sunsport]

Looks good! These boats have a lot of vinyl in them.

[Okie Boarder]

Purty...did you make those center sections removable?

[jet]

WOW I love that color. Wait didnt you sew those up or did you give in and send it out??

[wiatowski]

Looks awesome! How are you embedding your pictures on your posts? I find these stay where as the attachments go away after awhile.

[lively]

Ob- I sent the interior to get done by my buddie James , I wanted back support so the whole middle section and seat base acts as a flap to clean and add support An so fort , so ya it removes but still attached to the bottom .

Jet - yeah man I gave up , with out a walking foot sewing machine the vynil will not feed right , so I sent it off but he gave me a great price and it's I'n lewisville if ur interested ... He is doing the whole boat for 1200.00

Wiatowski- get a photobucket account and upload from phone or Pc and copy the [img] code and paste directly to the reply box , only 4 are allowed I'n one post ..

I'll update more when it's painted and interior is done .. Thanks for the kudos

[wiatowski]

thanks!!! once again can't wait to see after it comes back from painting! :)

[project_sunsport]

[QUOTE=lively;71854]...
also i bought the paint and taking it to get block sanded and sprayed this weekend said i should have it next week some time !!!
i got 1 gallon of SM1000 white/gloss
1 gallon of white etching prime
orange
grey
thinner "

Lively
I have a couple of questions about Your paint. Is the etching primer that You purchased an epoxy? Also is Your painter priming the gelcoat , or did He sand it down to fiberglass? I'm seeing a lot more automotive finishes on boats these days , and I like the looks. Should be less maintenance than gelcoat right?

Jeff

[lively]

jeff- Look up super marine paint {sm1000}

I washed and de greased and sanded most of the boat with 320 grit , just to break down , then i made some minor stress crack repairs with a razor blade and body filler .. he is going to finish the rest

The paint itself is a one part hybrid epoxy resin with pigmet of choice , it's literary 3 resins in one but cures with oxygen instead of hardener ...

also the etching primer is a must with any paint on any fiberglass product , this paint hardens like hard enamel so if its scratched or scuffed you can sand it out and buff back to a shine . personally i have never used this paint and have took a risk at spending all this money with no prior results , but I have great faith it will turn out great ...

less maintenance ... idk ? but deff wont chalk up or go dull . and i also got two different etching primers white for the (White/ Grey) and red oxide for the (orange)

[project_sunsport]

Thanks . That's what I was looking for. I've seen a lot of "high end" boats done with HOK , but I haven't heard anything good about HOK's epoxy primer. Since the gelcoat is known to retain the mold release agents and wax , I was looking for something that is known to adhere.
Yeah I better get busy with the razor blade and filler. There's probably a hundred holes since I took all the teak off.

[lively]

good luck to you sir and if you need any help just ask ...

[jet]

Email me his # please.

[lively]

whats your email ?

[lbagby]

by chance, if your Supra has the 351 ford, did you replace your starter motor with a high torque motor, and if so, can you tell me the model number and where you found it, at what cost? I want to replace mine and going on-line is not only confusing but the "new" prices range from $50 to $200. As you might imagine, I'm a bit confused.

thanks

[lively]

by chance, if your Supra has the 351 ford, did you replace your starter motor with a high torque motor, and if so, can you tell me the model number and where you found it, at what cost? I want to replace mine and going on-line is not only confusing but the "new" prices range from $50 to $200. As you might imagine, I'm a bit confused.

thanks Ibagby- no man I did not replace my starter , it is a remanufactured from oriellys auto parts .. And it has a
Lifetime warranty , I mean yeah it stinks to replace every couple years , but hey pay once use it forever lol ... One thing I have
Learned about ford starters or any starters for that matter , just crank for 3 seconds , if engine don't fire then you ain't maintaining it like you should .. That's my two cents brother man ..

[lively]

Reworked the trailer , man that grip tape was a pain I'n the butt to get off ...

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[lively]

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[Okie Boarder]

Did you get a marine starter?

[lively]

Did you get a marine starter?yes it has a vent tube and the body looks sealed

[lively]

Painter sent me some pics !!! man i cannot wait for the finished product !!!http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/1026316d.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/f77df85e.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/83605656.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/301ade98.jpg

[lively]

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/fad657e2.jpg

[aadieseltech]

looking good man, I have to say you are the one who inspired me to keep going on mine. I have to replace stringers and restore my hole boat as well but it is definitely worth it.

[lively]

looking good man, I have to say you are the one who inspired me to keep going on mine. I have to replace stringers and restore my hole boat as well but it is definitely worth it.
Thanks man ! you know its like i tell my wife you only live once , you might as well enjoy every second of it !

[lively]

finished the trailer ......http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/6ab219d1.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/d8c22e89.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/03226d48.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/13002794.jpg

[Ptownkid]

How much is the paint job running you?

[Salty87]

woowee, the only thing that will make that trailer look better is your like-new boat!

[sybrmike]

Agreed, can't wait to see the two together.

[BigCity444]

Wow. Today was the first time I stumbled upon this thread mostly because of these pics of this trailer. I'm trying to get mine to look like that. While it was very long to get through all 32 pages, it was well worth the read. What an experience and an amazing project.

Lively; All my respect. Nice work.

[lively]

boy do i got something to show yall lol !!! holy crap this painter is freaking bad ASS !!! i pick it up Saturday!!! 1200.00 labor 450.00 paint http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/04ae8984.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/9a0ec1d4.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/547c239c.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/90a85a4f.jpg

[lively]

Thank you for all the guidance and help along the way , i never knew my two hands could turn something like this around ... seriously thank you to those
that took the time to post and tell me the hints and how too's !! God is great ! ill update as soon as its out of the shop

[TitanTn]

It's like unwrapping a Christmas present. I can't wait to see what's inside.

[bens250ex]

man lively that thing is going to be sick looking, great work!

[lively]

so i go get the boat sat and show up and the painter says there was some difficulty's with spraying the orange , so as i look further there is a big problem , (they didnt let it dry fully before they taped the line up to spray the inside !!) so i told him look man i paid you to make this boat look good , and he said he will fix it next weekend .. so i guess i have to take the mans word and let him finish it ... but on the side note the orange was the only issue and everything else looks good ! http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/5f73090c.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/810adb48.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/88d0562c.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/180ad34a.jpg

[lively]

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/d1b2e935.jpg
so you guys see my problem ? its like that all the way around ! ugh ... so im just gonna hold my breath let it dry and take it to him to sand and fix it ... http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/2f1122a5.jpg

[lively]

And what is up with the TELE_ TUBBIES ?? i hate those things !! lol

[aadieseltech]

Lively that sucks but I think is still looks awesome, hang in there I am sure he will get it fix. What kind of paint did he use?

[lively]

i bought the paint supermarine paint .com SM1000 is the paint code .. i have heard mixed reviews about this paint but it clearly said apply thin coats and no more than 3ml thick on each coat .. so i just think he laid it on to thick and it only tacked up and then he was impatient cause he was trying to make it (happen) lol it really looks good besides
that but i think i would have used a different paint next time ... just really took a risk i guess .. o well you live and you learn ...

[wiatowski]

looking good.... well except for the minor problem.

[DAFF]

I hope you have not paid in full !! I can't see why they have to wait till next weekend to fix the issue. With the right hardeners I would think 36hours would be plenty of time to scuff the areas down and repaint.

As for the colour scheme, at least you are different.

[lively]

I hope you have not paid in full !! I can't see why they have to wait till next weekend to fix the issue. With the right hardeners I would think 36hours would be plenty of time to scuff the areas down and repaint.

As for the colour scheme, at least you are different.No I didn't pay the other 600 I took it from him to finish up th wiring and carpet , motor ect ..

As far as the color scheme , that not "different" that's hand picked by urs truly lol I like it just want that orange to pop out with
More fire

[wotan2525]

Whoa! THAT LOOKS AWESOME!

Hopefully he fixes the issue and gets it back to you ready to go...... You've come a long way!

[Okie Boarder]

Interested to see how he takes care of it. You did some orange accents for the interior too, right?

[Ptownkid]

Yeah, I think that looks badass!!!

Okie https://forum.supraboats.com/showthread.php?9559-86-supra-sunsport-rebuild&p=72611#post72611

[lively]

Ok so I talked to him and he said he has a two part and a clear to finish it up , said he will sand all the orange back down and
Spray up the new stuff .. I really think he was just heavy handed .. But I like it !! It looks brand new and I think will be splashing down by the end of may .. And I powder coated the platform brackets black to go off that orange .. Gonna look sweet !

[wiatowski]

.02 if you will.... I would've painted the line on the top white, and orange on the hull till you get to the orange and finished with white.... still looks nice, but that my opinion. :cool:

[sybrmike]

I'm sure the purists are rolling over, but kudo's to you for making it uniquely yours. I personally don't care for the color orange, but it's a stunner - especially considering what you started with. Hope you get it all worked out & keep up the hard work.

[Ptownkid]

I think the orange looks great! This whole boat is going to look super cool.

[lively]

Just a few things .. The orange was the only part that messed up and that is the only color that is going to get re sprayed , I
Looked at the color that he said he would shoot and I like it better than that copper tone that I have on there now .. It's just a hint lighter and with orange now being the primer it should pop pretty good .. I am waiting to let it dry as this paint has no hardner it's just paint lol .. Next time I think I'll use something allittle easier .. I mean my painter painted his 30' chapp with house of colors
Auto paint and it looks amazing ! But longevity ? Idk ... Regardless it's going back this Friday evening and getting fixed .. I have
Cooled down enough to speak with him this morning and so I plan to get my rudder and prop I'n tonight and some other Misc
Wiring .. I'll update some of the interior pics soon as I get on a land line .. Oh btw thanks for all the kudos guys

[lively]

took some more pics of the interior ......

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[lively]

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[TitanTn]

You're going all out Lively. Great job.

[Okie Boarder]

Lookin' good!

[dusty2221]

This is incredible. I think the orange looks awesome, can't wait to see more pics.

[lively]

Thanks guys . When it's all said and done I think it will look brand new and with a lively touch lol I'm gonna fire up the 351 on
some
6x6 's this weekend and mate the velvet up and get her I'n time , rudder is I'n , and prop and new bellows , soon as the paint is done ( again ) I'm
Throwing that engine I'n and start wiring

[Salty87]

does your painter realize how many people are waiting to see the project completed? sheesh...lol

you guys and your new vinyl...so jealous.

lively, yours looks fantastic although i'm a bit partial to the orange. a bit more burnt next time, please. lol

[matt k]

wow, just saw the interior pics. that boat is going to look brand new!

[lively]

Check it out ..... http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/66304599.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/ecf4c650.jpg

[wotan2525]

Wow! Who did your interior? I want it!!

[mabbore]

I hate to be the guy who asks this, but I really want to do mine. How much was the upolstry work?

[Jetlink]

I hate to be the guy who asks this, but I really want to do mine. How much was the upolstry work?Dude, look up Koch Upholstery in Rockford, yeah it might be a hike for you but they beat the pants off of everyone else on price and the quality is great!!! They did my entire boat except for the two side panels and the captains seat. I was out the door for all that work for about 1/4-1/3 the cost quoted by all the other shops in our area.

[matt k]

I was undecided about the orange at the back of the boat, but i LOVE the orange piping on the vinyl. Can't wait to see it all put together.

[DAFF]

Something doesn't look perfect with regards to the colour blends in the paint work. I have been thinking this for a few days now. I think the problem is in the flow of the white to grey to orange on the side of the gunwhale portion. I like the colours and the interior a ton but the transition in colours is bothering me. Perhaps it needs a narow band or orange towards the front in the crease under the rubrail and eliminate the grey on the lower section of the gunwhale.

Nows the time to chage things up a tad since they have to redo the orange anyhow....

[lively]

Something doesn't look perfect with regards to the colour blends in the paint work. I have been thinking this for a few days now. I think the problem is in the flow of the white to grey to orange on the side of the gunwhale portion. I like the colours and the interior a ton but the transition in colours is bothering me. Perhaps it needs a narow band or orange towards the front in the crease under the rubrail and eliminate the grey on the lower section of the gunwhale.

Nows the time to chage things up a tad since they have to redo the orange anyhow....i have a guy that is going to do some pin striping to transition the breaks in
colors i just have got to give it some serious thought on how i want it .. i was thinking black 3/8 duel pin strips to fade that in a bit ? idk im no good with paint scheme i just started drawing it down and had a picture in my mind on what i wanted and this is what came up lol .. throw some more ideas at me daff im open to hear ...

[lively]

I hate to be the guy who asks this, but I really want to do mine. How much was the upolstry work?i bought the vinyl and the welt for 250.00
and paid him 1200.00 for labor .. i think it was a great deal ...

[lively]

i mean i want some input on the orange on the back ? what do yall think ? maybe diff color ?

[wiatowski]

980098019802
I would just use the colors you have... or black outline

[lively]

980098019802
I would just use the colors you have... or black outlineBrotha fill me on how ur doing that on your pics , excel ?
Photoshop ? I like the first and the last of what u did , do it on the one I have it sideways on my driveway ...

[DAFF]

At last I have figured it out.... Run a orange stripe from the nose to the rear section inside the ribbed section just under the rub rail. Using the same distance from the rub rail to the stripe have it slice in front of the charcoal section. This making a white, orange, charcoal and back into orange slice. Is the orange in the piping in the interior the same shade as the rear section?? If not then the added stripe can be the same colour adding continuty.

See my problem was the boats interior screams fast but the exterior slowed it down. I think with the added stripe will make it look slimmer and stream lined...

[lively]

-wiatowski - can u photshop Daff's idea ? I like the sound of that daff ! It kinda makes since ( what do u mean by slice ?) going
Down the edge of the stripe ?

[wiatowski]

Brotha fill me on how ur doing that on your pics , excel ?
Photoshop ? I like the first and the last of what u did , do it on the one I have it sideways on my driveway ...

mspaint... you might have to type it in on your start menu search bar.... I see what I can do.. I just got home and haven't seen the fam all week...but I know your in a hurry.
Just have to figure out what the heck daff is talking about????? :)

[wiatowski]

try this
981198129813

not sure if the 3rd one is what daff was talking about... can you get a shot directly from the side?... ant take the guard off the back of the trailer?
Maybe I should have left the rub rail off???

[DAFF]

The last one is close to my idea. I think if all the black outlines were removed and the orange went to the bottom of the hull al would be good.

[lively]

ha ha ! guess what ? so i picked some of the interior up and set it in the boat ... annnnddd needless to say the grey on grey is totally off .. so i talked to the painter and he said he could match it up and get r done , there was no way in hell i would drop it in the water with those two greys lol .. but i have faith it will all come together ..

carpets in and wiring started , i have to wait for her to return to finish ...

[wiatowski]

The last one is close to my idea. I think if all the black outlines were removed and the orange went to the bottom of the hull al would be good.

will see what I can do later.... it's later
you mean like this?
9820

[lively]

ding ding ding ding !!! round 2 of the paint job lol .. jeez man id really like to kick myself sometimes ... base coat / clear coat .... and they are re spraying the grey to match the interior ... and i ling it done like the pin striping ideas .. !! considering having it done there .... idk yet ... but the interiors done and looks good ...

[lively]

so i talked with the painter today and sounds like things went right this time around ... he said they will be buffing Saturday morning and i can come pick it up
in the afternoon .. I did have to pay to change the color grey and the clear , he covered the orange witch is a brighter orange ... and then im headed to the
house to install the engine and rivet and seal the hull ... ill be wiring through the weekend and hopefully have a lake test by Monday .. i am in no rush so im
taking my time with making solid connections with all the new hardware .. but i thought i would share my plan with yous guys and to say Thanks to fellow
serviceman for all the hard work !!

[wiatowski]

good to hear can't wait to see the pics! :D

[drew10483]

awesome! pics will make me even more jealous!

[lively]

hey guys ! well i got the motor in and fired up but i cant seem to turn her off .. lol so does anyone have dash schematics for the ignition and gauges .. i wrote down all of this before i disassembled but i lost the most important one .. can some one email or text me [email protected] or 817 996 3051

thanks for the help
87 sunsport

[DAFF]

Check the coil for power ..... I think you key is running power to it constant and not through the switch....

[lively]

ok i got is this secondary orange wire that comes out of the rear harness (orange ) witch checking ohms rings out to the output on the alternator but in the main plug there is a orange
wire that goes to the (S) of the volt meter ? do you have a pic of your breakr setup and resistor ? also my choke is not getting power to close when i start

[lively]

this is what im talking about http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/0a8730c2.jpg

[lively]

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[lively]

and here is it running http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/?action=view&current=a39b9ad5.mp4

and yes that was a scratch on my new paint ... ugh ... decal will do fine

[lively]

I have the orange wire in the main harness ran to the signal lug on volt meter and a power wire coming off the same lug to the fuse panel for my switched
Accessories.

So with the extra orange wire I checked continuity from output on alt from harness as well
as the extra one and they both ring out so they are deft spliced at some point. .. so
I still need to fine out if it is actually charging ...but my alt has a one wire output (orange) and one ground

When I put the orange wire directly on the + for the seloniod it pegs the volt meter acting like its grounding
other than that it runs and turns off by key and gauges are working besides the oil press .... any input on this
Would help me a lot ..

[lively]

Any thoughts ???

[wiatowski]

I'm really hungry..... lol

best I can do is check my engine when I get home..... tomorrow.

[lively]

I'm really hungry..... lol

best I can do is check my engine when I get home..... tomorrow.
yeah just look at ur voltage gauge what is terminated on the signal post and where that orange output ties into.. thanks bud

[wiatowski]

yeah just look at ur voltage gauge what is terminated on the signal post and where that orange output ties into.. thanks bud
no problem....

[lively]

No body loves me :( ! Lol I just want ti charge me battery! ! And read it! !

[wiatowski]

I don't have a voltage gauge just amps.

[lively]

Ok but on the rear of the motor . Where is ur secondary orange wire terminated .. if it even is

[wiatowski]

Ok but on the rear of the motor . Where is ur secondary orange wire terminated .. if it even is
as far as I can tell nothing... its taped off.
here's the pics.100461004710048

[lively]

Yeah idk I might have wired it wrong .. lol I talked to Vince at skidim. And if u have an amp meter that is how its to be wired
but in my case that with a volt meter it goes to the input for the breaker and the little red wire goes to the postive lead comeing in.
And that is what charges the battery but I don't get it ... I did that and the damn volt meter still pegged out .. oh well ill look at it when I
get home ... just so much going on .. I don't need hold ups like these ... thanks fit the help bud!

[wiatowski]

hope you find the solution... boat looking good by the way.

[lively]

Thanks man , its taking alot out of my heart and soul to make this project a success and it's going to be a life learning lesson for
Me , I'm 26 and I'm proud to say that I was self taught with help from supra forum guys out there !

It's like drinking a cold brew after a job well done that makes me go for more !

[lively]

Here are some pics of the engine install ..

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[lively]

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[sybrmike]

Congrats on reaching yet another major milestone. Don't forget to do a good alignment on the coupling - it'll help that new tranny last longer. Did you get the engine wiring sorted out? Sorry, no help here - I've got a 454 & no original wiring.

[lively]

Thank you. I believe it is aligned correctly. .002 top to bottom and side to side how did u do yours? And I think I got the wiring figured out just didn't understand why the gauge was pegging out

[jet]

Some of us are still on here, but most are out having fun without us man. I still have a way to go too! Stereo, roswell bar, tower wiring. carpet, steering wheel and a bunch of details.

[lively]

Well I am having new tower feet welded on, I have to finish up all the wiring maybe 2 hrs tops and install interior .. a day maybe .. I plan to be on the water next weekend to lake test and name her

[jet]

You can name her just dont put it on your boat man. (You can, but you shouldn't) Like "Wet Dreams" or "Eat My Wake" Not cool man..not cool for boats under 24'. Or how bout "Lil Evil" lol. Mine is called the "Endorphine" because she makes my endorphines accelerate and gets me excited!!

[csuggs]

You can name her just dont put it on your boat man. (You can, but you shouldn't) Like "Wet Dreams" or "Eat My Wake" Not cool man..not cool for boats under 24'. Or how bout "Lil Evil" lol. Mine is called the "Endorphine" because she makes my endorphines accelerate and gets me excited!!

Mine is affectionately known as "The Other Woman" - named by my wife. But it's not on the boat.

[csuggs]

That's a pretty sweet paint scheme - LOVE the colors!!8)

[lively]

"Lady Lively" / "one vision " / " eat my paint " lol not ... there's so many online that I'm just going to freestyle name her on the docks ... I'm just ready! Lol

[wiatowski]

looking good! just finished putting mine back on the trailer. :)

[jet]

Im going to put 4-engines in mine and call it "Four Play" lmao!! My wife calls it the other women also. But wife number #2 never gets mad at me or makes me take the trash out. lol

[Jetlink]

Im going to put 4-engines in mine and call it "Four Play" lmao!! My wife calls it the other women also. But wife number #2 never gets mad at me or makes me take the trash out. lol
Reasons why boats are better than women:

1: They don't get jealous when you look at other boats.
2: They don't complain when you tie them down.
3: They don't get angry when you look at boat magazines and boat pictures.
4: They come with an instruction manual
5: They have an "on" and an "off" switch.

:D

[lively]

Ha ha! That's some funny stuff right there!

[jet]

I would like #4 and #5!!
women10131


men10132

[lively]

So I got all the small stuff done ... platform/ new wiring/ blowers/ fuel tank/ winsheild/ and I broke my throttle cable when I installed it ... ugh! Probably. Needed to be replaced, I figured out the volt gauge it reads from signal or ignition .. don't use both lol ... that's a new one on me ... but rubrail will be
Going on today .. and fasten the front railings on .... I'm moving to are new house Friday and sat so I plan to lake test Sunday morning to see if she floats! ! Lol I will update photos later .... -lively-

[bens250ex]

Where the updated pics? I dropped mine off yesterday to get a rear seat built

[lively]

More photos ..............http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/54203e5f.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/fbba0366.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/0e8ee80f.jpghttp://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/e38ecc85.jpg

[lively]

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[bens250ex]

Lookin good

[Okie Boarder]

You're getting so close...looking good man!

[lively]

I plan to lake test Sunday morning .. Have a question though I aligned my couplers and put in gear on trailer and rev to 2000 and had a small vibration .. Will the thrust and being in water cancel that out ? I plan to tram motor more at lake but just wanted some insight . Cause I wAs told its a self aligning cause it's all connected to rubber . ( mounts / cutlass ect..)
What do y'all think ?

[Okie Boarder]

Were you running it in gear and spinning the shaft? That may be what you were hearing / feeling. The cutlass bearing needs to be wet or else it makes quite a bit of noise and vibration.

[sybrmike]

Man, you are knocking this one out in a hurry. Looking good.

Yes, it'll make noise and rumble in gear on the trailer. Careful running it in gear on the trailer - you can burn up the cutlass bearings in a hurry. If you've got a dripless seal, the flush water will help keep it wet but still generally not a good idea.

Good idea to recheck the alignment on the water - things can settle a bit differently from the trailer. I rechecked mine on the water, but it was the same.

[lively]

I just gave the cutlass a squirt of oil / water to lube it up .. I just didn't know what to expect on the trailer cause I did not try it in gear before rebuild ... I'm going to check Thursday dry fit again . And then Sunday morning at dock .. But yeah ! She's ready to
Get wet and play her tunes !!

Oh an how my thumbs hurt from that damn insert ! Lol that was fun

[lively]

She is ready boys! Fathers day morn I'm splashing down ! I finished up the odds and ends last night and gotta get my tags put on today ... ill let y'all know
how she floats with videos soon as I can

[jet]

Good luck! I would try and put her in the day before you want to go out, that way if there is anything you need to adjust or fix (oh, and you will) that way it wont mess up your day. Good luck man.

[wiatowski]

So?????? Unveiling and pictures of the finished ride?

[lively]

Splash ! She floats ! Lol

I put her in and I found a couple things to tighty up ..

Rear intake seal is leaking just enough to piss u off lol ..
No biggie , I reseal this week ..

Timing is off a little . Popping under full load , I remove distributor when I painted block
And put her a tdc and aligned at 0 degrees .. Just need to bring my timing light and mess with it a bit ..

I did not feel vibration in shaft or see it move in any direction ..

Trans held strong ! And did what it is supposed to do ..

Question : speedo - that brass pipe with the input and output for the pressure line .. Is that a one way dill ?
Are they installed a certain way for the speedo to pick up ?

I didn't get a video , cause I was so excited that I have a floating rig again , but I will upload some pics shortly ..


Thanks again guys !

Wake tower is getting welded this Friday ..

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[jet]

I know those straps are just snug. But get them off of there. Not made for that. Man, that interior is BEAUTIFUL!! I also like pulling the wooden door off of the dog house. Cool idea. Im tired of redoing mine every year. lol.

8-channel amp?? I dont think I have ever seen one?? How big is it?? She looks great man.

[lively]

Thanks jet! The amp is made by wet entertainment .. its 2 quads that are in the same box ; its not big like 2' long ... @ 100w rms per unit @ 4 ohms it should
Scream! I have backing plates on my platform brackets so no worry there .. just didn't know how much and if it would bounce around

[Okie Boarder]

Do you not have hooks to put the straps on from the factory?

[lively]

Do you not have hooks to put the straps on from the factory?

No , idk why cause the trailer does .. But those straps are rubber insolated and those brackets ain't moving anytime soon .. Lol

[Okie Boarder]

If you did want to alleviate stress on the platform, you could go up and over the back end of the boat and just cinch the whole thing down, too. Definitely have something back there whatever you do.

[lively]

If you did want to alleviate stress on the platform, you could go up and over the back end of the boat and just cinch the whole thing down, too. Definitely have something back there whatever you do.I might just through
Bolt some hold downs so I can fix it permanently . The backing plates have enough overage to allow a great fixed point

[Bravura88]

Hey Lively great rebuild man boat looks killer, love the orange. Ive got a ? about the A frame u built. Going to strt pulling the top and engine on my Salt later this month and was thinking of stealing ur design. Wanted to know if u used it to pull ur engine as well as cap. Also how it did, any signs of stress so i know to beef it up a bit or if i should be good with what u used. Thx

[lively]

I used 4 4x4 x12 lumber with 2x4 through bolted for cross support, top is not heavy just awkward and long .. get a few buddies to help pull it and set on
ground, if u pull engine with it, I would deff beef the cross braces up and through bolt everything

[lively]

I used 4 4x4 x12 lumber with 2x4 through bolted for cross support, top is not heavy just awkward and long .. get a few buddies to help pull it and set on
ground, if u pull engine with it, I would deff beef the cross braces up and through bolt everything

[lively]

What's up guys ! Man what a weekend so far ! I took the family camping and we set up at a local island @eagle mountain lake , tx
It was a blast ! We went tubing , wakeboarding , and jammed out to some great tunes !

Here are some pics of where I'm at so far ...
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[lively]

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[wotan2525]

Looking good! The only thing that (to me) sticks out on that boat is the cheesy registration numbers. Go drop a few bucks at 3dlettering.com and upgrade those!!

[Salty87]

^ good catch. would give johnny law a reason to stop you too. supposed to be contrasting colors against their background. white on white es no bueno.

[lively]

Man is the boating season already over ? well i am thinking about some new things to putt on in the winter ... Xtab from bennet / New tower / decals/ intake and TB injection (junk yard special :) ) but here is "LIVELYHOOD" http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/lively86/44A0E2A8-F793-42C5-B82B-F2763F1AB9AC-806-000001308B17E2C6.jpg

[lively]

and if you look to the top right of my tower .. that my friends is a weak weld that broke .. lol that tower is weak as it is anyway ...

those of you that have towers .. do they sway when your underway ? or is it more rigid and firm ?

[Blackntan90]

On my Monster tower(MT-1) the left rear leg keeps coming loose at the top swivel that allows the tower to fold down... Havent heard back from them yet about a fix. Wish I had waited and gotten a Titan. I think they look alot better, and 1 pin to fold.

[lively]

ill check that out ... i like my look , but deff want something more rigid

[sybrmike]

+1 for the Titan. I put one on my Salt & it does not move. I've towed everything from wakeboards, 3 person tubes, and even comp slaloms & it doesn't flex. Yeah, I know tubes from the tower are supposed to be a no-no, but I reinforced the heck outta the backside of the mounts (17 oz glass over 3/4" ply). Also, the Titan uses heim joints at the deck joint so the loads are transferred with minimal torque. On the down side, I have to remove the front wishbone completely to fit under my garage door header. Also the design makes it difficult to fit a functional bimini (planned winter project). Oh, and the tubes are stainless so drilling for tower speakers takes good quality drill bits.

The look isn't for everyone - but here's some pics mounted on my Salt for reference

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[TitanTn]

Mike - that last photo is interesting. My Salt doesn't kick up that much water when idling, so maybe my water flow is less? I don't have any temperature issues, so I'm not sure what the harm might be.

p.s. I like how you said +1 for the Titan. I'll just pretend you meant that personally for me. :p

[Jetlink]

I bet that is not a "low" idle in that picture. I know on my comp with the baby engine, starting and then a high idle resonates pretty hard off of the composite platform I have. I have a feeling that if I had a teak platform like both of you that mine would look like that doing a high idle.

[wotan2525]

I noticed the same thing. The SuperTrapps can be oriented to face down or face up. My guess is that his were faced up. It makes quite a difference.

[Jetlink]

SuperTrapps radiate around in a 360 degree pattern however, Mike is running flappers I believe.

[TitanTn]

SuperTrapps radiate around in a 360 degree pattern however, Mike is running flappers I believe.

That's a good point. Could be the difference between trapps and flappers. My trapps are 360 degrees and there's no way to point them any direction. Maybe there's more than one type of trapp?

[wotan2525]

Weird! My trapps had holes in them on the end cap that only covered about 120degrees of the surface.

[TitanTn]

Yeah, mine don't have any holes. See attached.11300

[Jetlink]

Ok, so I don't have the pictures on my phone or computer when I removed my trapps but I think we are all talking about the same thing, just not the same part/area. The pucks that are sandwiched between the end cap and the transom are where the exhaust all come out. I have a short video clip of my boat running with the trapps before I removed them. It happens fast but you can see when there is a surge of water coming out the exhaust that it flows out in all directions.


http://youtu.be/0lDS0vwS8yM

[wotan2525]

Yeah, mine don't have any holes. See attached.11300

Weird! Mine def. had holes....
http://i.imgur.com/N6gN3.jpg

[Jetlink]

Those look to be an "after market" mod done by a previous owner. All the classic supras that I see in lifts on our lake that still have the trapps all look like the ones I took off and the ones that Rob showed as well. That sure is interesting though, perhaps they were trying to "open" the exhaust up some.

[TitanTn]

Yeah, that looks similar to someone drilling out the baffle on motorcycle exhaust pipes to "open it up." That's definitely not stock.

[Jetlink]

Yeah, that looks similar to someone drilling out the baffle on motorcycle exhaust pipes to "open it up." That's definitely not stock.
I bet that nets an extra 5 HP per hole drilled at least! :D

[wotan2525]

Hah! I never realized that. Pretty sure I sent them to another board member so they are probably still in use.

And they definitely made a difference as far as how the exhaust was exiting and the water was being splashed/churned.

[lively]

ha ha .. I thought the trapps were ok at first but i like that sleek tip kinda look ...

winter projects :

hydro trim tab

new wake tower

more 6.5" speakers x4

custom Bimini top with racks , and beads for the tie -ups lol

[sybrmike]

I just threw that pic in to show the tower from another perspective. The exhaust bubbles are just more pronounced cause it's loaded with ~2400 lbs of ballast. FWIW - 800 rpm idle, flappers, and slatted teak platform.

Good luck with the winter projects, Lively - still hoping to get a trip or two in before I start on my winter list.

[lively]

what is up guys !! jeeze i feel like i have been so busy !! .. i have been looking at new ideas , getting decals made up for the sides and also i think i have LED fever !! lol

i found some 5050 smd RGB waterproof strip lights on ebay for 40$ and i think im gonna try some on the back transom .. thoughts? they are wrapped in silicone sleeve and have screw down clips to hold it ... also anybody in the market for a 351 winsor with new water logs and accessories? 1200.00 is what i want ...

i want to put a fuel injected engine but idk if gm bell housing will work or if i can get a adapter .. thoughts?


other words .. i have new baby boy wyatt levi lively feb 6th .. lol so now i got 2 little munchkins ! how is everyone !!

[TitanTn]

Congrats on the new baby Lively! I hope this won't keep you from working on the boat.

I've done some of those same upgrades this winter. Decals and LEDs. The changes are subtle, but it's something that at least I'll appreciate. What are you thinking about for decals?

[lively]

Congrats on the new baby Lively! I hope this won't keep you from working on the boat.

I've done some of those same upgrades this winter. Decals and LEDs. The changes are subtle, but it's something that at least I'll appreciate. What are you thinking about for decals?

supra on the sides , pin striping to blend the colors in and hopefully have a new tower soon .. money is a little tight but thats what side jobs are for !! lol

[lively]

can one of yall take a few pics of your captains seat layout .. what i am having an issue with is the doghouse front needs to be moved up about 1 inch, but my seat is almost to big and a real hassle getting in and out and everything else .. so i was thinking of just a bolster to lean/sit against to free up the space and add more accessibility ..

and also someone remind me how to upload videos .. i have a gopro hero 3 now and id like to take some HD videos for the forum and my thread

[lively]

need some help .. i bought led strip lights RGB and each strip is 5 meters long .. since i redone my interior by hand i ready have no way to hide the leds and just show the light ..

trying to figure out what to do , i want to run some leds along the side panels i made but cant seem to figure out how to conceal how i mount them with a finished look for daylight outings ... any thoughts ?

[h2oskier]

I have an 86 Supra Sunsport Skier that I wont part with. However my kids want a tower. What did you decide on and where would you suggest getting one from.
I read every bit of your saga and am truly impressed with your rebuild effort. Way to go...
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