I just bought an 1987 Supra Saltare and need some engine help. It might be missing some pieces and need some pictures or diagrams of what it should look like. Trying to upload some pictures but says file is too large.
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I just bought an 1987 Supra Saltare and need some engine help. It might be missing some pieces and need some pictures or diagrams of what it should look like. Trying to upload some pictures but says file is too large.
Wow, I don't want to be a downer but I hope you got it cheap. Looking at the state of dis-assembly, I'd say you've got a bit of a project on your hands. Firstly before you even consider putting it back together, you need to know why it was taken apart. Do you know the story?
To answer your question though, from what I can see, you're missing the thermostat housing and hoses, push rods for both sides, distributor and wiring, ignition coil, and of course all the associated gaskets. Putting it all back together isn't that big a job if you know what you're doing, it's just nuts and bolts. What I'd be more concerned about is how long it's been sitting open. You've got a bunch of mating surfaces that have been exposed for all the time it's been sitting like that, and they'll all need to be properly cleaned before it goes back together.
There are guys on this forum who know much more about motors than I do, so you will get good advice here.
Good luck.
You'll be throwing good money after bad if you start bolting that engine back together. It's obviously got problems and needs a complete rebuild -- and I'd definitely have the block magnafluxed (checked for cracks) and have the heads gone through. It's not impossible for you to DIY a good portion of this but step 1 is going to be to yank it out of the boat and start disassembly.
The good news is that it's a 454 and stock parts are relatively cheap.
I believe this saltare was on CL, advertised as working great over the summer, but was not winterized at the end of the season, cracking the exhaust manifolds, perhaps more.
Full rebuild....
Best of luck, you're at the right place for help.
I am going to put in a rebuilt 454 as this one does have a cracked block. The problem is I am not sure where some of the brackets are supposed to be mounted as some are removed. That is why I would like a picture or diagram of what goes where.
glad to hear your replacing the engine. That one has seen better days. Even if the block wasnt cracked, it looks like its been sitting apart so long that the cylinder walls are probably rusted and will never seal again properly with out a rebuild. I can take a few pics of the accessory brackets on my 454 next time im at my boat if no one can provide them.
Went to pick up my donor 454 today and hope to pull mine out this weekend. Next they will both go to the machine shop for a total rebuild. Lucky me that both blocks have the same casting numbers.
So when I get the engine back from the machine shop do I paint it PCM silver, black or Chevy Orange?
Sounds like you got a good plan. I would do Dark Ford Blue with black valve covers and brackets. :p Failing that I'd probably do silver engine and black valve covers/brackets/pulleys. There's actually something to be said for a light colored engine and visibility in a bilge if you're in a pinch and working on something. Also doesn't show scratches or chips as easily, at least until they rust.
I don't think I going Ford paint on a Chevy engine, might cause the engine to run bad. :lol:
Oh, milky. Had a 350 do that to me once in the middle of the busy shipping channel in the city. Not fun when it was losing power, went wide open and headed for shore until power and RPM slowly dropped and died with the throttle pinned. Engine was totally covered in thick milkshake coming out of every possible place to leak and all over the bilge. Then paddle hard to shore while moving with the tide (away from my trailer). Missed the first ramp but made the next, hitchhike about 40 miles up river to my truck and raced back in time to miss the tide and wait another 4 hours until water was deep enough. Got it home right before the sun came up, in time to get cleaned up and be at work on time. :cry: That was a long day. Pulled a 350 out of a Trans Am for $100 and dropped it in, back on the water the following weekend. Wish I still had that sort of energy. :D
Previous owner did not know you had to winterize boats left outside.
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Thanks. My engines are still at the machine shop waiting on the rebuild. I hope to get them back next week.
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Hope my engine builder is at work today!
Wrong. it won't run at all with ford paint :lol:Quote:
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Just picked up the engine today.
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If you need any parts for your boat let me know, I have an 87 saltare that I am parting out. Have all the drive train (you don't need motor and mine is blown) new shaft, tranny,prop....all mechanical. My lift broke and it beat the hell out of it so its been in the yard for a couple years now.
Took all of the interior our to get new vinyl. Going to install new carpet also.
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Mkdsmith do you still have some parts off the saltare I need the exhaust flanges that screw on the outside of the boat and hold the flaps
These boats don't have flaps, they have SuprertrappsQuote:
Originally Posted by Smitty40s
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My 1990 saltare has flaps my other supra has supertrapps
I need some pictures of a PCM 454 front shot, like of the Impeller housing bracket and alternator bracket where they mount to the engine.
So, I have to rebuild the motor box base also. Why does the base have a lip or did the PO just make it this way? I am thinking about just using an 2X6.
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Mine had a lip, too. I rebuilt it the same way and didn't really question why.
It provides a more stable surface for the doghouse lid to rest on. The one pieces fiberglass lids aren't exactly perfectly shaped. Also gave them a place to tuck the carpet edge under to hide it.
so does the engine cover go down and rest on the inner lip?
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So have you tested the stringers? It'd be a shame to put it all back together to just tear it apart again.
The motor mounts are tight and not spinning.
While the engine is out I thought I would replace the carpet and buff the exterior.
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Installed some carpet today.
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Since we had some rain today went ahead and installed the engine and started hooking stuff back up. Been working on the swim platform also.
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Looking great! You're on the home stretch now!
I like that swim step! Teak?
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