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Trying to set up the surf wave on the 19 Supra SL and need some help.
Stock ballast +500 lbs of PnP in each rear locker and 200 lbs of lead in the bow and 200 lbs in the surf locker. 11.3 mph. pitch around 10 and -2 on regular and 4 on goofy. Wave is tall and big but would like a little more length. tried going faster but lose push in the back. Surf plate is at 30. Thanks.
Try dropping your Surf Plate to 10, while increasing your pitch to 10.5.
Did you try one of the wakesurf presets and autowake?
Then tweak from there on speed and wake plate. The more wake plate you add, the smaller your wave will be.
Minimize wake plate and add front ballast or speed up a little to lengthen the wake.
I am going to say the factory engineers have tried every pitch and roll setting to come up with the presets.
Here is the Mecca if Autowake knowledge. I can promise you after reading this long thread, you will master Autowake, by far the best tool on the the wake market.
AutoWake questions
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I may have to try autowake again. Since my post, I added 400 lbs of lead so now have 200 lbs in the bow and 300 lbs each side midship. The wave has improved dramatically. Now surfing at 11.7 mph and pitch of 10 ish and roll of 4 on goofy and 2.5 on regular.
Cool, I wish I can own my own surf wave machine.
Hi,
SO you have added +500 in each rear locker above the in floor ballast or you but larger bags sub floor? Is all of that extra weight above the 3500 stock ballast really needed to get a quality wave out of the Supra. I just sold my Malibu and purchased a 2020 SL 550 and was hoping I didn't really need to add that much extra weight to get a decent wave
If we have 2-3 people, I run 500-1000#. Not in the lockers, under the seats from the back seat to the tower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkman40
Larger crew, I leave the bags at home.
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Yes, in such conditions, I would like to have my own surf machine.
Turn off auto wake. I would only use if you have 6 or more people in boat and just having a fun run. We run 150 each rear corner and 100 under each tower. 100 percent to surf side, 95 to other. 60 to 70 front, less if you have people up front. Easy peezy, at those settings and only driver in boat the wake is fantastic, clean, useable and a ton of push. 10.6 to 11.4 speed based on preference etc. You can slam way more weight into this boat but the tsunami that ensues is past ridiculous and most pros will make us reduce it. Don’t confuse a huge wake with a good wake. My two cents.
I have a 2019 SL 450 and usually run with a small crew (wife and 2 little kids). I have an additional 650# of lead (300# port, 250# starboard, and 100# center locker). I have the weight evenly distributed from the tower back. Disclaimer...My wife and I are both regular foot so I've spent most of my time dialing in the port (regular) side wave. I have Autowake set at -3 for "surf left" and 4 for "surf right" with pitch set at 9.5, wake plate set to 25 at 11.5mph. We are getting a long, consistent, belly high wave that grows to chest high with a larger crew. My goofy (right) side wave tends to be taller, steeper, and shorter, which we like, because it gives us a little more push when we are surfing backside. Most of our friends that surf goofy are beginners so they like the extra push of that steeper wave but I think as they progress I will have to do some more tweaking on that wave. I am the only Supra at my dock filled with LSV 25's and G23's and the general consensus is the Supra is getting the best wave.
When it comes to shaping your surf wake, there are two basic factors to consider: length and push. Length refers to how far behind the boat the wave extends, while push refers to the amount of force a wave has to thrust the rider forward without the use of a rope. Unfortunately, to gain a significant amount of one, you must take away from the other. This is not to say that these boats cannot create wakes that have a great deal of both at the same time, but rather if you take them to the extreme, they tend to counteract one another. For example, you can probably create a surf wave right now that is 35’ long, but you’ll be hard-pressed to find a rider skilled enough to ride it without a rope. On the other end of the spectrum, you could create a chest-high surf wave that has so much push you can barely keep from riding it back into the boat, but this wave likely wouldn’t have the length most riders would prefer. For this reason, most riders tend to look for something closer to the middle of the spectrum, leaning more towards one or the other depending on their riding style. In case you were wondering how you can achieve more of one or the other, let’s explore the most common methods for adding length or push to your wave.
Depending on your setup, this will have an affect on two areas that people are paying more attention to: 1) transition area when getting off the wave and closer to the platform and 2) lip of the wave for trying things like jumps/air.