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  1. #1
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    Default Supra Saltare in France

    Hello everybody !

    I'm a happy new owner of a 1989 SALTARE, the unique piece here in France ! I got it last weekend and tested it in water 2 days ago (10°C outside, 5°C in water ...)
    It comes with the 454ci, has 292 hours, is in good overall condition.
    I just need to clean the vinyl, carpet and polish the hull.

    I need also to check/change to steering cable, it's very hard to turn even when the boat is stopped. I will rebuild the wood floor hatch beind the engine box, it start to be flexible. I will use PVC for this part. Floors and stringers looks perfect even arround the engine bolts.

    The boat will be mainly used for wakeboarding. I plan to put on it a Monster MT2 tower with racks and mirror. A complete BOSS audio marine hifi : head unit, 4x 6"½ round speakers in the boat, 4x 6"x9" oval speakers on tower in a home made box, a subwoofer in enclosure.
    If I have more money, I plan to wrap it ...

    I will also do some mods on the trailer as here in France, trailers looks horrific !

    Here are few pisc of that monster, I will post many others as soon as I start to work on it :

    01.jpgIMG_1004.jpgIMG_1724.jpgIMG_1760.jpg

    Stephane
    Stéphane
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    1989 Supra Saltare

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    Congrats! The boat looks beautfiul. Welcome to the site!

    That trailer is at least 4' too short. I think it might be reasonable to assume that the axles are too light for that boat?? It's a heavy beast!
    Former owner of a 1987 Supra Saltare. Current owner of a Malibu 23LSV.

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    That's how every boat trailers look like here in France. It's the good one for this boat. But in fact it looks too short, because we use a removable light ramp instead of longer trailer with integrated lights. We don't have here painted trailers, chrome wheel, led lights, disc brakes etc. It's forbiden !!! We are just 30 years in late comparring US
    Anyway this trailer is ok for this boat, rating 2700kg, it's stable @ 130km/h so no problem. It's just uggly and I plan to customize it : 15" tunning wheel, new painted fender, integrated lights and maybe a new paint.

    What is your fuel consumption with this boat ? Mine is going 1900rpm @ 31km/h

    Cheers
    Stéphane
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    1989 Supra Saltare

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    I think we've got a language issue -- fuel consumption here is how many gallons that I use? I think I'm right around 6-7/hour for wakeboarding. Slightly less for surfing.
    Former owner of a 1987 Supra Saltare. Current owner of a Malibu 23LSV.

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    Yes, forgive my poor English.
    I was looking at the fuel consumption. I gave you the speed and rpm to see if your 6-7 GPH is because of different propeller than mine.
    I bought this boat because it's been 3 years i'm wakeboarding behind a friend's Mastercraft X35 (of 2009) with 8.2L 450hp engine. He wants to sell it this winter, so I looked for an as roomy and confortable boat, for 8-10 people with good wake. The X35 3 tons monster drinks 35L/h. It ran 31km/h @ 2800rpm.
    I hope my Saltare will burn less fuel. Here 1L of unleaded 95 octane (RON 95, MON 85) fuel (E10, 10% ethanol) is 1.48€

    I will calculate it next season, but if it's over 25LPH, I will think about swaping the 454 for a 350 ... We (my friends and I) do 100 hours per year of wakeboarding, so I really need an efficient boat. I don't plan to ballast it, or maybe to clean the wake (with iron cast pieces), but we often are 7-8 people onboard and the actual wake seems cool for us.

    What wakeboard tower model do you have on yours ?
    Stéphane
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    1989 Supra Saltare

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    Nice ride
    1.48€ is that euros

    I have found that in a boat the larger engines can somtimes be more efficiant as they not working as hard.
    You will probably end up using close to the same amount of fuel. It takes the same amout of energy to move your boat a given speed at a given load regardless of how its powerd.

    By the way if you ditch the bb Im sure somone would take all that old junky stuff off of you hads.

    90 bravura 351 1.23/1pmc40 Pefectpass stargazer wake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdc77 View Post
    Yes, forgive my poor English.
    I was looking at the fuel consumption. I gave you the speed and rpm to see if your 6-7 GPH is because of different propeller than mine.
    I bought this boat because it's been 3 years i'm wakeboarding behind a friend's Mastercraft X35 (of 2009) with 8.2L 450hp engine. He wants to sell it this winter, so I looked for an as roomy and confortable boat, for 8-10 people with good wake. The X35 3 tons monster drinks 35L/h. It ran 31km/h @ 2800rpm.
    I hope my Saltare will burn less fuel. Here 1L of unleaded 95 octane (RON 95, MON 85) fuel (E10, 10% ethanol) is 1.48€

    I will calculate it next season, but if it's over 25LPH, I will think about swaping the 454 for a 350 ... We (my friends and I) do 100 hours per year of wakeboarding, so I really need an efficient boat. I don't plan to ballast it, or maybe to clean the wake (with iron cast pieces), but we often are 7-8 people onboard and the actual wake seems cool for us.

    What wakeboard tower model do you have on yours ?
    The x35 is a monster and the 8.1 (496)a beast on gas but it is multi port fuel injected. Your 454 is smaller (7.4) but carburated and less efficient. Your boat is lighter I believe so I would guess its going to use a little less LPH but not much. I bet your going to see 28-30LPH at best but it all depends on ballast and I hope I'm wrong and you do see less than 25.
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    Default Supra Saltare in France

    Did you install the raw water pump correctly? If installed backwards, the pump will attempt to flow water the opposite direction and can cause an overheat situation. Before spending any money, I'd make sure you installed the pump correctly.
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    Yes, I took photo before I remove it, it's mounted exactly the same way it was before.
    On other thing, exhaust were cold after 30min running and hoses close to the thermostat housing were very hot.
    I think about 3 things : to much rust in the engine, or thermostat, or engine water pump.
    Any advise ?
    Stéphane
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    1989 Supra Saltare

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    The thermostat is a good guess, and worth replacing if you don't know its age. Skidim should have the right one, I bought mine there. I will agree that it's not always easy to find exactly what you need just by using their web site though. You should try sending them an email with your specs and I'm sure they'll have what you need.

    1986 Saltare
    Restoration link: http://supraboats.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=7839

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