No apologies needed! I hate the idea of several good ideas getting barried in a single long thread. I've received several contacts asking if I'm still using them. Physics hasn't changed and they still work great! Unfortunately I'm not able to fabricated any until my boat is back in my shop for the winter because I use it for mock up.

I did get the opportunity to surf behind a '14 MB Tomcat this week end. It had the flooding ballistic in it which is awesome with 950lbs a side. Unfortunately the wave was lacking in the stock configuration and Ali i could do was concentrate on keeping going.

More that ever I feel the addition of the gates (or what ever apparatus you use) is by for the best addition for surfing. Not only safer but also cheaper and faster.