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  1. #1
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    Default All kinds of issues this weekend!

    I have a 90 Sunsport with the 351 PMC.
    Took the boat out 5/18. Tested it. 3 people. Ran great
    Took the boat out 5/26.. Different story.

    ***First*** the boat would do nothing with the key in the ignition. Thought the batteries were completely dead, but even a jumping the boat didn't help. Did the old screw driver to the starter relay, BAM! Problem solved. Awesome!

    ***Second***
    Loaded up some friends, headed towards the spot on the lake I like to start taking newbies.. After about 2 minutes @ 26mph, boat sputters... then dies. RPM's dropped quick, boat came to a slow down, then sputtered at idle. Tried giving a little gas when it was sputtering at idle, didn't do anything. Wait about 15 seconds, boat starts up, runs at speed for about 15 seconds, then does the same thing. Cycle. Rinse. Repeat...

    We were able to get it to run "fine" later, we took apart the cap and rotor. Tightened the non-working temperature sender unit (or gauge.. one of them isn't working). Not sure which thing specifically helped, but any input would be helpful.

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    When was the last time you set /changed the points and condensor? Or the fuel filters(there are two of them)? Start with simple cheap stuff and don't overthink it! These things are really quite simple in nature, also check the ballast resistor's resistance. Hope this helps!
    -Rich
    1990 Supra Mariah/351 PCM 1:23-1 PCM

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    Great starting points. Didn't know anything about ballast resistors or points and condensers till I googled it 5 minutes ago! Still unclear what the resistance should read. But I can easily get started on the basics at least.
    Last edited by twisterad3; 05-30-2014 at 12:25 PM.

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    Again, staying with simple things...check your battery cables. Seems like to stupid thing to say...but I was having dead short (turn the key and nothing would happen...gauges wouldn't register) issues last year and the starting solenoid constantly burning out. I had old battery cables that I think may have been getting wet and shorting out. Replaced the cables this year. No issues with the dead short and have not had to replace the solenoid. I was replacing the solenoid 1-2x per year. Again...the simple things.
    1984 Supra Rider

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    I replaced the main battery cables last year when we purchased it. Also the alternator, since we were only getting like 10volts running. I had the batteries out of the boat this winter and on a tender inside, so the batteries should be good.
    How frequently do you guys think I should be replacing the plug wires? If I can get to the plugs, I'll probably replace those tonight too, but not sure about the wires. They look good, but who knows...

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    Plug wire are not generally needed unless you are getting misfires, or arcing between them. are they brittle when you wrap them around your finger? Then I would replace. Did mine 2 years ago, mostly for peace of mind and looks. I put on the yellow 8mm PCM wires from skidim.
    -Rich
    1990 Supra Mariah/351 PCM 1:23-1 PCM

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    ***Update***
    Boat seems to be running fine.
    I changed the plugs (they were pretty old), changed the oil, changed the filter, adjusted the contact points on the distributer, and took it out for a successful test run.
    Have since brought it out every weekend, loaded it up (7 people and 700lbs of ballast) and it's still running pretty damn well.
    I think it's time for some fresh top end gaskets and some additional TLC to keep the motor running strong.

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    Glad you got it going well!
    -Rich
    1990 Supra Mariah/351 PCM 1:23-1 PCM

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    You should be changing the points and condencer every season . They will corrode from sitting over the winter . Its a good habit to change in the spring. Keep a old set in the boat as insurance on the water. The nice thing about points is you can change them on the fly with only a pocket knife.

    Here are the NAPA part numbers for your boat
    Points CS720P
    Condenser AL869
    Rotor AL125
    Dist Cap AL171
    SP Wires 188802
    Ign Coil
    Motorcraft E8TF-12029BA BKC External Resistor

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael hunter View Post
    You should be changing the points and condencer every season . They will corrode from sitting over the winter . Its a good habit to change in the spring. Keep a old set in the boat as insurance on the water. The nice thing about points is you can change them on the fly with only a pocket knife.

    Here are the NAPA part numbers for your boat
    Points CS720P
    Condenser AL869
    Rotor AL125
    Dist Cap AL171
    SP Wires 188802
    Ign Coil
    Motorcraft E8TF-12029BA BKC External Resistor
    What? We are on our 5th summer with our CC. Still have no idea how old the points are but they work great! Timing is still dead on and it runs smooth. I think you are wasting money doing it every year. Every other I could understand, but not every... Yes it does have points and condenser, and original cap and rotor, and original wires...
    1992 Supra Comp Ts6m 5000 Series PCM 5.8 HO Pro Boss Protec Ignition (not converted) w/ 4010 "Fish Bowl" Carb
    1.23:1 tranny
    "Silent Rider. Quiets The Competition." muffler isn't so silent anymore. ITS HOLLOW!

    1989 Correct Craft Martinique B/R PCM 5.8 Power Plus Package

    1984 E-Scow

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