2nd the Big Bags. My 540lb has been solid. My dogs walk all over it.
2nd the Big Bags. My 540lb has been solid. My dogs walk all over it.
I had sumo sacs a long time ago and had nothing but problems. Replaced them with the Straight Line bags and never looked back. I've never had a leak or a problem with them.
Former owner of a 1987 Supra Saltare. Current owner of a Malibu 23LSV.
High Fly's came with my boat. 10 years later they are still not leaking...knock on wood!
I have had a mix of all of those bags over the years, plus a couple of others that are still in the mix.
The SL Sumo vs Big Bag is not a huge difference. I think the Sumos are more designed to be added to compartments with or replacing factory ballast systems (cube shaped and fill an entire compartment better), where the Big Bags are designed to just lay in the floor (cylindrical and more stable on the floor). The Sumo does seems to be slightly tougher. I did get a pinhole in my Big Bag 540 2 weeks ago, but it didn't ruin that day, and was easily repaired with a bicycle tube patch that I had in the garage. I had a sharp (slightly stripped) screw head on one of the screws in the locker, and I usually cram all of the deflated bags and pumps back there when not in use. I don't blame the bag.
The check valve in the Straight Line bags is recessed, and the way the pump interfaces with it helps keep it from folding over on itself when draining, therefore (on my boat) they are a little more trouble free. Although that pump is also a little slower (lower GPM) than the pump that I have for the Fly High/fat Sacs. I think the one that gets packaged with those bags now is nearly equivalent (1100 GPM) to the one that you'd get for the Fly High or Fat Sac (1200 GPM).
My setup For wakeboarding:
This in the locker (actually an older version of it with waterbed fittings and Fly High adapters to their QD for the tsunami pump):
http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-rear-seat-sac.html
This behind the doghouse (probably doesn't get fully filled) with what I think is their older 800 GPM pump. I should by the faster pump now, I only learned that I exists be looking up these parts for you
http://www.wakemakers.com/launch-pad...ag-single.html
Wake plate as far down as possible, to the point of bending the corners more than the center...
When it's surf time I add this to the surf side:
It is no longer available, but perfectly fills up the space behind the driver's seat. I'm naturally goofy footed, Somehow I've managed to form the wake better on that side of my salt, and The boat is more manageable without a big bag laying in the floor in the ONLY walk space left. Get ready for your 22' boat to feel tiny!
If I had to replace it, I'd buy this:
http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-f...rain-port.html
I don't use ANY weight up front - I try to use the wake plate for that. There is always some fine tuning by moving people around, but I usually end up with the heaviest person in the surf corner (except that's usually me, and I'm usually at the throttle or behind the boat), second in the observer's seat, and the rest is just trial and error. With this setup, the rubrail in the surf corner touches the water while sitting still, and is actually below the waterline when running. it takes some getting used to and some extra caution...
The fill/check valve caps are tethered on everything that I've got, but the extra drains are not, so i keep a few spares on hand. That has saved they day twice, and well worth the couple of extra bucks. Get the fastest pumps that you can get for your bags - it really is a big deal. I also had an o-ring fall apart on the SL pump, so I've got a bag of those in the boat too. It was still getting water in the bag, but it was getting just as much in the floor when it failed.
Let's get that Saltare weighted down!
Korey Morris -
Sold to Arkansas: 1986 Supra Saltare
Current: 2018 Moomba Craz
Oh yeah, people it on, step on, woller all over, throw boards on the bags. it's not a big deal.
I can get it surfable for most riders on either side of the boat with these tools
Korey Morris -
Sold to Arkansas: 1986 Supra Saltare
Current: 2018 Moomba Craz