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  1. #1
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    Default Can I Use This Alternator???

    My alternator is no good so we are looking for replacements.

    SkiDIM.com recommended this alt for $175
    http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RA097006

    We think switching to a more comon (GM 10SI) alternation is better. Dad has a 10SI in the shop and the case appears to be a direct fit. There are many available on ebay that are marine/coast guard approved - lots of them in Mercury stern drives. this item number appears to be the best price ($60) with shipping of $12.00.

    We are looking at this one:
    ebay item 360161752321 or linked:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...2321&viewitem=

    Model name (for after the ebay link expires)
    Alternator - Delco 10SI Series
    63 Amp, 12 Volt, CW, 1-Groove Pulley

    Used On:
    Mercury Mercruiser 4, 6, 8-Cyl. Marine Engines
    Replaces:
    Delco 1100576, 577
    1102393, 496
    1105478
    Mercury Marine 69729, 56045, 59755
    Lester Nos:
    7152
    Notes:
    Completely Remanufactured , New Bearings, New Brusholder Assy, New Rectifier, New Self Exciting Regulator
    Comes With New Coast Guard Approved Screens & Cover
    Replaces: Arco# 20102
    1 Year Warranty




    O'Reilly could get one (10SI marine) in two working days but at $155.00.


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    We are also having an issue with our electronic ignition and may have to replace it. Inside the rotor is a cap with magnets. The sleeve that holds the magnets in came unglued and we are not getting spark on a few cylinders.

    New electronic ignition is on sale at SkiDIM for $70
    http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RP173071A

    We sent Pertronix an email to see if we can get a new magnet sleeve - will need to wait for a reply.

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  2. #2
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    If it truly is a marine unit and you can make it fit, then I see no reason why not. Keep in mind when buying parts though; most times you do get what you pay for.
    1992 Supra Mariah - Red
    PCM 351HO 285hp - PCM 1.23:1 Transmission
    OJ XMP 4 Blade CNC 13x15.5RH

    "People do weird things to boats" -Unknown

  3. #3
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    Do not use the one wire. You wiring is not set up for it and you will loose your ammeter gauge with that. Call Arco. They specialize in marine electrics and are very helpful. I am almost positive that is what the second one is! Tell them what you have and your needs and they can set you up with a bolt on alternator!!

  4. #4
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    Mikey
    Is there a rebuilder in your area you can take your old alt to and have it rebuilt?
    The reason I never converted my Ign to electronic is because of the problem you have
    now. I dont like aftermarket products I usually will keep it stock . The points are cheap
    and available everywhere.

  5. #5
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    I skipped petronix also, I went with new GM HEI. Replaced whole ignition. What a great decision. I agree on the alternator you get what you pay for.

  6. #6
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    It is running really smooth with the points on lol I didn't expect that. Thanks again to my dad who is a wealth of knowledge.

    knoble thanks for that tip I think that might be the dealbreaker. Thanks for the Arco plug too good idea.

    Skidim says my old alt is pretty obsolete so I am thinking that will be a more reliable long term solution. Thanks everyone.
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  7. #7
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    Mikey, I'm not sure I'd be so quick to pass judgment on the mando alternator. Yes it is an old design, but so is that GM alt. Do you know if the alt you are replacing is the original one. If so, 22 years is not exactly a bad lifespan in a marine environment.

    Irregardless, As long as the alternator case isn't cracked, I see no reason to buy new instead of getting it rebuilt locally. The case and the field coils are really the only nonreplacable parts.

    I am stating all this under the assumption that your current dead alt is an internally regulated unit.
    1992 Supra Mariah - Red
    PCM 351HO 285hp - PCM 1.23:1 Transmission
    OJ XMP 4 Blade CNC 13x15.5RH

    "People do weird things to boats" -Unknown

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    I hate to be the voice to disagree but I bought a db electrical alternator off of ebay to replace my stock one. 165 amp (I think) vs the stock 45 amp. It came with a dyno-graphy type sheet that showed what amps it made at what RPM..... sure... maybe it was BS... but it wasn't expensive and it has worked GREAT for me. Batteries charge fast and my electrical system is happy. It's a one-wire and my electrical gauge still works. I have no complaints. It was cheaper than having mine rebuilt by the local shop.
    Former owner of a 1987 Supra Saltare. Current owner of a Malibu 23LSV.

  9. #9
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    I bought a 90 amp alt. from rareelectrical.com for 70.00 bucks and so far have been very happy with it. I took my old alt to several shops and they couldnt beef it up and the old 55 amp just wasnt cutting it anymore. I was very skeptical of the price but so far so good been using it about 2 months and no problems at all yet

  10. #10
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    Hey guys thanks again. The model that is currently in the boat and not working DOES have an external regulator. So we are not really keen on keeping that one. I am willing to spend some money to make sure we have reliable and quick charging power.

    I guess I didn't know that you guys were upgrading to alts that produce more amps. I thought that was only for guys with multiple amps and large speaker setups. I have one 5ch amp that runs about 800watts. This powers cabin speakers 6.5" x4, Kicker KMT6 tower speakers (2 pods, 3 speakers in each pod), and one 12" sub. The single amp pushes 125watts per channel x4 + a 300watt sub channel.

    Wotan how much was your alt? Was it marine?

    Jason what model is your boat again? Yours sounds like a good deal with double the amps of the original alt. I'm not sure I need one that is super crazy powerful. Thanks!
    Last edited by 87SunSportMikeyD; 06-14-2009 at 12:16 PM.
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