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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by chautauquasun View Post
    I have had just one back fire this year...dont recall any last year. Does it take just one to blow the power valve?
    Yes it just take 1 and they are toast, Have you noticed really bad fuel consumption? It will drink up the petro pretty fast with a blown powervalve.

  2. #12
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    When was the last time you changed your fuel filter on your fuel/water separator. I'm having the same problem with surging and called the guys at skimid and they pointed me to the fuel filter first. That's the cheapest so try that first. Locate your fuel/water separator and unscrew the bolt at the bottom (have a cup to catch the fuel) if the gas comes out milky or dirty it needs to be change, it should be changed once a year. That could be the culprit to your problem, a dirty fuel filter can cause alot of problems, if that doesn't do it, it's got to be your carb. You probably got a marine 4160, I've never rebuilt one and did it in about 4 hours but try the fuel filter first you'll be suprized at how that can affect your engine

  3. #13
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    The Blow Out Preventer only applies to street carbs. Marine carbs are different and the Power Valve will blow if there is a back fire.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by chautauquasun View Post

    Any ideas? Does it sound like a fuel issue...maybe the pump or choke? Or does it sound more like an ignition issue. I did not change the points or condenser this year.

    Dan
    http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RP173072

    best thing i've ever done for my boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUI View Post
    The Blow Out Preventer only applies to street carbs. Marine carbs are different and the Power Valve will blow if there is a back fire.
    I don't think so, Marine and street use the same style power valves, the blow out kit is an add on to carb not the powervalve.. Other than the J-tubes and different fuel metering the carbs are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chautauquasun View Post
    So I finally got her in the water. The rebuild is great and it looks great. Took her out on her maiden voyage and she ran great. Still have some trouble with the carb with it stalling at low rpm and when it is cold. Took her back to the dock then went out for another run and started to have a strange problem. The boat started to surge like I was pushing the throttle back and forth in a cycle at low to mid rpm. Seem to happen around 20 mph...it didnt seem to affect the performance a lot but the you could hear the engine surging in and out in a perfect cycle. It didnt do it a low rpm 5-10 mph and it didnt seem as bad or was non-existent at faster speeds. The engine wasn't hot and all the guages read where they should be. Same thing the next day. The first time out no problem, second time out when it was warmed up same problem again.

    The boat is a hot rod on water and I think she is telling me she likes to go fast...but I kind of need it to run well at slower speeds.

    Any ideas? Does it sound like a fuel issue...maybe the pump or choke? Or does it sound more like an ignition issue. I did not change the points or condenser this year.

    Any help would be much appreciated. Its good to be back on here again!!!!!

    Thank you.

    Dan
    Hi Dan,

    The screws on the side of the carb are the idle air bleeds, and will only adjust the idle mixture. The idle circuits close around 1000 rpm, so I don't think this is your problem. Carb tuning is for the most part, changing the fuel metering jets, power valves, and the like to change the carbs performance charectoristics. Most likely your jets and power valve are the originals specified for the marine carb, and do not need to be changed or tuned to something else. I guess what I am saying is that there isn't much tuning for us "stock" engine users. I think what you need is to "restore" your carberator with an overhaul kit. The kit will come with a new power valve, new needles and seats, new accelerator pump diaghram, and new gaskets. It is easy to install, and you don't even need to remove the carb from the engine to replace the key parts.

    There is a lot of technical information at www.holley.com. An exploded view for the 4160 carb can be found here: http://www.holley.com/data/TechServi...ded%20View.pdf
    Rick Ludtke
    1990 Supra Pirata
    1987 Supra Comp TS6M
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