Rudder at the bottom of the lake

[stinky_1]

Hi guys. I was out with my new to me 1990 sunspot on our family holiday. The boat has always had a hard time turning right. Never paid mush attention to it. Was out tubing with the kids on a hard right turn when I hear a loud clunk. Suddenly the steering is really easy. Only problem was it wasn't turning.

We were a long way from the launch site so I had a paddle out while my wife ran the throttle

Managed to get us back on the trailer and out ofthe wTer. Sure enough the whole rudder is gone. Snapped clean off where it comes through the hull.

That was yesterday. Skidim has a new generic one for $398 or $389 US (can't remember which). I called skierschoice as well and they refered me to my local supra supplier. Their cost for the actual suprA unit is $414 cdn. Both units will require me to pay shipping fees as well. I am looking somewhere in the neighborhood of $150 for the supra one. Skidim didn't have an estimate even until it was boxed and ready to be sent

With the price being so similar I am curious which way you guys would recomend I go with this? I have no care at all to stay "factory" on this boat. Whatever works and works the best in this case. Apparently both units require me to make the hole in the hull bigger. So I don't even save anything there

Any thoughts? I want to get this sorted out pretty quick as our summers are short enough in Canada as it is

[mapleleaf]

I went with a replacement Marine Hardware one similar to Ngav's, price in Ontario with the port and everything was $670....Seemed pricey but my boat now turns like a dream, no more bent rudder shaft binding, which is probably what was happening on yours....Only diff is a rock got mine, other then that our OEM's are in the same place!

[stinky_1]

I figured at the end of the day it will be around $600 cdn. Not an expense I really wanted. But what can you do!?

I know I read good things about the response with the generic ones. Would you say you would rather have that one in than the factory supra one if you were to do it again? Assume everything else will be the same for cost

[mapleleaf]

Hitting the rock cost me 2500 plus about 50 hrs of my own labour, I knew my rudder was going to have to be replaced before this incident, this just fast forwarded it. The MH rudder is more substantial and I at first thought it was going to be too much rudder, turns out it runs well and turns great and may have more structure then the OEM (time will tell). I seem to have a strange little noise coming from under the boat above 25mph, Not a bad sound just something new, I had to shim my strut to get a good drive shaft alignment and my prop was rebalanced so there's too many new parts to isolate which one is making the noise, I'm sure it's nothing bad, but it could be the turbulence created by the size of this new rudder...
If my old one had never been bent it'd be hard to say which one I like better, I bought the boat with a bent rudder...

[rludtke]

I looked at the SkiDim rudder in the catalog, and noticed that it had the improved O-ring style of seal. I think my rudder shaft is letting in some water.So at least you would get a more modern set up.

[mapleleaf]

I looked at the SkiDim rudder in the catalog, and noticed that it had the improved O-ring style of seal. I think my rudder shaft is letting in some water.So at least you would get a more modern set up.

this is one of the things I like about my new rudder....

[riveredge]

Yep the Marine Hardware one is your best bet. I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that you can even get one just like your original, at least not for a reasonable price.

There was a thread not long ago about replacing the rudder with the current MH model, it has excellent seals and no grease fittings (time will tell whether this was a good move on their part, I don't believe in "lifetime" lubrication). Here's the thread: http://supraboats.com/bbs/showthread...rudder+packing

Skidim.com should be able to get you one for way less than $600. Mine was under $400 shipped, I think, with the 10% discount code CCFAN.

Good luck!

[stinky_1]

hey guys, thanks a bunch for all the advice and thoughts.

I ended up going with the MH rubber through skidim. It came to $530 CDN after exchange with pretty fast shipping through UPS. They usually ship with USPS but I asked to have it sent a bit faster. They shipped it on thursday and it got here on monday. The UPS broker fee was $29. So, I am around $560 all in.

I will be doing the repair myself hopefully tomorrow

[rludtke]

hey guys, thanks a bunch for all the advice and thoughts.

I ended up going with the MH rubber through skidim. It came to $530 CDN after exchange with pretty fast shipping through UPS. They usually ship with USPS but I asked to have it sent a bit faster. They shipped it on thursday and it got here on monday. The UPS broker fee was $29. So, I am around $560 all in.

I will be doing the repair myself hopefully tomorrow

Is this rudder a "slip-in" retrofit, or does the boat need to change in any way?

[stinky_1]

It was sold to me as a "mostly" slip in. I may need to open the hole in the hull up a bit because the shaft is thicker. But the mounting plate for the top and bottom is the same bolt pattern.

After talking to skiers choice I was told that even their replacement rudder would have the same issues. They were not much more expensive for their rudder though, so the decision came down to the shipping cost, and how fast I could get it. I was looking at closer to $600 - $620 with shipping and all my taxes through the local supra dealer.

I will try and take some pics of the install so everyone can see how it actually goes.