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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by rludtke View Post
    Your right docdrs, I see it now. (C) is a restriction placed on outboards and outdrive equipped boats. This being the case, I agree with it too. This is simply enforcing what should be common sense.
    This is a good law and it covers all the problems that need to be. Some people are just interpreting it wrong to fit their desires. To say the wakes are too big is hogwash ......yes they are big , but have you ever seen a wake a 1999 air nautique throws unweighted ..... or a 22 foot cobalt at 10 mph ..... just 2 of the reasons i put a lift in my boat house and way before wakesurfing came around ... sorry ranting
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    I know i really don't fit with the wakeboard croud. I just don't get it. I grew up skiing and barefooting. We still do it. No wakeboards allowed in my boat. lol Anyway the wakes have done damage to moored boats and some have been held responsible for damage hear on Lake Wawasee. However Proof must be presented. As for surfing behind an inboard, maybe not actually illegal, but Teak Surfing is and is very dangerous. It is sad we must have more laws just to portray common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast 496 View Post
    It is sad we must have more laws just to portray common sense.
    No kidding...

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    Whether this law actually prohibits surfing behind an inboard, which I believe it does as the wording can be interpreted that way and undoubtedly will be interpreted that way by your typical uneducated law enforcement. At the very least the wording needs to be changed to explicity include only I/O and outboard in that section C.

    Regardless, this is another bad law. Nothing unsafe shoudl ever be outlawed if the only persons at risk from it are those who choose to participate. No one forces you to surf behind an I/O or to teak surf behind anything, and if you do the only people that may be injured or killed are those who choose to participate. Stupid is as stupid does, in a free society stupid is not illegal.

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    It's quite clear that it does not restrict surfing behind an inboard...

    The subheadings under (2) ONLY apply to the types of boats listed.

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    I also don't believe it applies to inboards based on what I read.

    Teak surfing is just a bad idea and should be illegal. I would actually think it would be covered under whatever law states that persons should be seated when underway or something like that.

    I'm actually glad to see this go into effect and wouldn't mind it here. I see I/O boat guys every weekend that "think" they have the same boat we do. Hell I got in an argument with a local Chapperal (spl) dealer because he was telling me how the boat could do everything an inboard can but with the benefits of an outboard drive. I brought up surfing and he said "its great for surfing". He is selling that aspect of the boat! Over the past couple months I've realized that many of the tahoe, chapperal, crownline, etc owners feel their boat is no different than ours. I've seen several of them start "surfing" (they are actually just wakeboarding right behind the boat as all their pressure is usually on the backfoot). Anyways, its a pet-peeve of mine as I don't want to see anyone get hurt (both for their sake and the sports sake).

    I have thought numerous times that I should go strike up a convo, offer a surf behind the boat, and warn them of the dangers, however, i don't want to come across as a pompus a$$. This law could perhaps slow them down. Well if the water patrol knew what they were looking for.
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    Speaking of water patrol ...

    Set with 3 of them for an hour or so the 4th weekend. I'm pretty sure they hate jet ski's more than I do!!

    The ones here were only concerned with 2 things: number of people onboard and jet ski's. I am a little worried bc I asked him what he thought my boat was rated for and how high he'd have to count before coming over ... "probably rated for 8 or so, its tough to tell with those boats, if i counted 10 on yours i might come stop you" .... I was quick to let him know i was rated for 16 and not to bother
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    I agree completely with Cadunkle, a free society is one that allows for stupidity... as long as that stupidity doesn't affect someone else.

    I could understand an argument that brought up an instance where someone owned an I/O, invited out a friend out who had zero experience on the water and with wakesurfing, and told them wakesurfing was safe. Then if that friend were to fall forward and get hurt or killed, I suppose it would make the DNR look bad for not making it illegal.

    However, I like to think that if you're a passenger on a boat period you're already putting your trust in the boat operator so it's no different.

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    My fear is with kids. That I/O dad who just got sold his brand new crownline (full of false sales pitches) thinking it is the same as an inboard puts his kid back there (because of ignorance, not necessarily stupidity) and an accident happens.
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    Yeah that's a good example too... but anyone who is ignorant enough to think that his I/O is a good surf boat, will also be ignorant enough to not know about the no surfing law in the first place, so I don't know that it will matter much.

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