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    My first boat was a I/O volvo Penta AQ145B, on a Invader V171.
    We started wakeboarding on this boat with a good wake for beginners.

    I can't spit on I/O, they do what you want and are drivable on reverse. They got good top end speed, good drivability (not as good as DD-VD), cheaper and easier to find.
    The thing that is really missing on that boats is the plateform at water level.

    But for wakeboarding/skating/surfing, I will never go back to an I/O.

    What I can say about DD VS V-drive :
    - Better room, sunbath up of the engine, better Wake size/shape, better surfing ability etc. for the V-drive
    - Better drivability at idle and low speed, better acceleration, better for skying, cheaper boats for Direct-drive
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    I have to throw one differing, well not totally differing, but slightly different opinion out there. I have owned quite a few boats. Currently have a 88 Supra Comp and at the pricepoint I can't think of another boat that I would rather have. However, I had a 99 Sanger with a 200 EFI Merc and that boat handled like a dream, pulled like a mule and had a great ski/barefoot wake. Never a fan of I/Os but the old Sangers and Malibu Flightcrafts with outboards were great all around boats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdc77 View Post
    My first boat was a I/O volvo Penta AQ145B, on a Invader V171.
    We started wakeboarding on this boat with a good wake for beginners.

    I can't spit on I/O, they do what you want and are drivable on reverse. They got good top end speed, good drivability (not as good as DD-VD), cheaper and easier to find.
    The thing that is really missing on that boats is the plateform at water level.

    But for wakeboarding/skating/surfing, I will never go back to an I/O.

    What I can say about DD VS V-drive :
    - Better room, sunbath up of the engine, better Wake size/shape, better surfing ability etc. for the V-drive
    - Better drivability at idle and low speed, better acceleration, better for skying, cheaper boats for Direct-drive
    Why would you say that the DD has better driveability at idle/low speed than a v-drive? they are both fixed shaftdrive props with a rudder behind it. So the only real difference would be engine location. Are you saying that the DD will do better idling around because of the location of the engine/weight distribution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trayson View Post
    Why would you say that the DD has better driveability at idle/low speed than a v-drive? they are both fixed shaftdrive props with a rudder behind it. So the only real difference would be engine location. Are you saying that the DD will do better idling around because of the location of the engine/weight distribution?
    More predictability in my opinion. I never have to really think about how my boat is going to behave at low/idle speeds both in forward and reverse. My in-laws stern drive can be a head ache some days trying to get it in the lift under certain weather conditions, never an issue with my boat though as it is always consistent. How much effort and mental capacity does it take to maneuver your boat in a circle not much greater than the length of your boat?
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    Well,
    I have 3 points of comparison :
    -2009 X35 mastercraft VD (23ft) + hydraulic steering
    -2009 Malibu waksetter VD (20ft), cable steering
    -1989 Supra Slatare DD (23ft), cable steering, tired rudder

    The Saltare can turn like it's fixed to the water from the center of the boat, it's incredible. We can do 360° (or more ...) without moving forward or backward
    The mastercraft was an anchor ! you need the champs Elysée street (or Hollywood boulevard ...) to do a 360° turn
    The Malibu is almost as hard as the MC to do the job. It has much more inertia, like if you ask something to it and get it 5-10 seconds later ...

    Definitely the Saltare is the winner in overall drivability + acceleration
    Stéphane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdc77 View Post
    Well,
    I have 3 points of comparison :
    -2009 X35 mastercraft VD (23ft) + hydraulic steering
    -2009 Malibu waksetter VD (20ft), cable steering
    -1989 Supra Slatare DD (23ft), cable steering, tired rudder

    The Saltare can turn like it's fixed to the water from the center of the boat, it's incredible. We can do 360° (or more ...) without moving forward or backward
    The mastercraft was an anchor ! you need the champs Elysée street (or Hollywood boulevard ...) to do a 360° turn
    The Malibu is almost as hard as the MC to do the job. It has much more inertia, like if you ask something to it and get it 5-10 seconds later ...

    Definitely the Saltare is the winner in overall drivability + acceleration
    Interesting. Well, I'd take either of the other two boats in a heartbeat over even my all composite tricked out 92 Sunsport! hahaha
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    The DD boats will perform in all aspects better than the I/O other than reversing, beach landings and big water waves. The design of the hull and the big V is the largest variable in making the boats feel like you are driving a double decker bus with a pool on the top.

    My next cruiser will be a twin screw inboard. After using the Doral for the summer I found myself a little irritated with the constant messing with the trim to make it run down the water. But the cabin style weekend boat is a must have for the family. Great times were had on both this summer.

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    Finally, you don't need a DD, VD or any V8 boat to do wakeboarding, your just need to be ..... asian

    Stéphane
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    umm my new v-drive accelerates better than my sunsport and a buddies comp
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