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  1. #11
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    R & D is a step in the right direction. Loosing a raw water pump on a all aluminum block is another >>>>> Instant $5000.00 repair.

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    My biggest problem is the lack of R&D they are replacing a 6.2L with a 6.2 built by someone else. There is no big increases in toque or HP.
    I suspect the main reason for the switch is better price structure for Indmar . I doubt that will be passed on the the consumer in fact I would be surprised if it dosnt cost more. I just don't see any game changing advancements here.

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    Anyone know when I can order a new SC with a Ford 6.2L engine? I've been waiting for Ford to get back in the marine business since I sold my 2000 Air Nautique with a GT40. Thanks.
    2011 Mastercraft 215v <-- Former Boat
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    This is true. And I don't mean to be offensive. But. If everyone thought like this we would never advance in technology.
    Competition drives these company's to spend resources on r&d. This r&d is what gave us things life fuel injection. Imagine driving carb cars. I have a couple mustangs and although I don't mind carbs I would not want it in my everyday driver. I think the 6.2 is here to stay. And maybe not... But are we content to stick with the "old reliable" forever and never advance?
    Exactly my thought, how long will everyone want that ol chevy (whos architecture was designed in the 50's) when much better powertrains are available? despite what some people think, the ford modular is an excellent motor with excellent reliability. It has a superior torque curve and there are alot of aftermarket performance accessories. Look at the mustang performance market.. And as far as the ecoboost v6 is concerned, watch the 6 episodes of "ecoboost torture test" on Youtube. Worn out at 80k, i dont think so. That 355 hp v6 is bad a**, awesome low end torque. Id trade the Assault out of Legacy for one anyday. I might be biased though, I am a Ford employee and was excited to see the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyespyautomotive View Post
    Exactly my thought, how long will everyone want that ol chevy (whos architecture was designed in the 50's) when much better powertrains are available? despite what some people think, the ford modular is an excellent motor with excellent reliability. It has a superior torque curve and there are alot of aftermarket performance accessories. Look at the mustang performance market.. And as far as the ecoboost v6 is concerned, watch the 6 episodes of "ecoboost torture test" on Youtube. Worn out at 80k, i dont think so. That 355 hp v6 is bad a**, awesome low end torque. Id trade the Assault out of Legacy for one anyday. I might be biased though, I am a Ford employee and was excited to see the news.
    Where can I find a 60 Year Old LS3?? I would very much like to know! Oh wait, I can't! Its only 5 years old! Based on 15 year old tech! And guess what, the Ford Modular is older! You are confused between Chevy 350 and GM LS series LS3... Completely different motors and technology...
    1992 Supra Comp Ts6m 5000 Series PCM 5.8 HO Pro Boss Protec Ignition (not converted) w/ 4010 "Fish Bowl" Carb
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    "Silent Rider. Quiets The Competition." muffler isn't so silent anymore. ITS HOLLOW!

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    I stand corrected. Ill still take the Raptor 6.2 motor over the LS3 though. Maybe Indmar did some testing themselves and determined its a better motor. If the LS3 was so great then I am sure they would have stayed with it. There are so many factors that may have come into play though, possibly a better deal with Ford,a GM warranty issue, supply chain, plant closings, whatever. Maybe GM decided they wanted out, you never know. All you can hope is Indmar did their homework and decided that was a better route.
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    OH yes, I'm very sure. With PCM as competition I bet they would not want to make the wrong move! I wonder what the reason was though... GM is already well under way on the entire new line of V8's. They are going back to the LT name basis They already have the LT-# motors from Chevy back in the 70's and 80's, then in the 90's they brought in the LT# such as the LT1 for the updated Gen II motors... Why, why?? Its going to get real confusing instead of coming up with a new distinct name basis...
    1992 Supra Comp Ts6m 5000 Series PCM 5.8 HO Pro Boss Protec Ignition (not converted) w/ 4010 "Fish Bowl" Carb
    1.23:1 tranny
    "Silent Rider. Quiets The Competition." muffler isn't so silent anymore. ITS HOLLOW!

    1989 Correct Craft Martinique B/R PCM 5.8 Power Plus Package

    1984 E-Scow

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    Mastercraft dumped Indmar for Ilmor engines because they didn't like that their competition was able to use the same motors they used. Indmar probably is just wanting to offer a wider variety of engines to satisfy their customers and retain their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssa View Post
    Mastercraft dumped Indmar for Ilmor engines because they didn't like that their competition was able to use the same motors they used. Indmar probably is just wanting to offer a wider variety of engines to satisfy their customers and retain their business.
    Indmar is dumping GM. So they aren't "widening" their variety...
    They switched out to the heavier Ford 6.2L instead of the lighter GM LS3...
    1992 Supra Comp Ts6m 5000 Series PCM 5.8 HO Pro Boss Protec Ignition (not converted) w/ 4010 "Fish Bowl" Carb
    1.23:1 tranny
    "Silent Rider. Quiets The Competition." muffler isn't so silent anymore. ITS HOLLOW!

    1989 Correct Craft Martinique B/R PCM 5.8 Power Plus Package

    1984 E-Scow

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    I haven't read anywhere that their going to exclusively offer Ford engines. Maybe I missed it. But if that's the case then their going to replace the GM 5.7, 6.0, and 6.2 with the Ford 6.2l? And if they're going to use other Ford engines to replace the smaller lower horse GM engines what does ford have to offer that's competitive price wise with the 5.7.

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