Originally Posted by
Wylietunes
How is that different from the Xm9, to which the comparison is asked about? Both are pro-axial HLCD.
Since that hole is in the center of the cone, its the smallest part of the cone, so loss of surface area is minimal.
Sure they do. But its not due to the hole in the cone, its do to the aggressive compression horn thats likely twice as large as the typical tweeter and handle 10 times the power. In reality, The mid-bass extension and output of an 8" HLCD and an 8" coaxial both in the same volume pod, is going to be the same. The difference is the amount of treble from the compression driver compared to a tweeter. An HLCD is going to put out more, as its a purpose-built speaker designed for wake range projection. Now, the Rev-10 is in its own little world. They produce a ton of mid-bass, mid-bass that you can feel in your chest, and have incredible balance for an HLCD.
Dont hate the player, hate the game, LOL. Seriously, thats not a product of the speaker, so why lay blame there. Thats power amp wattage, cheap price point amps or poor tuning.
The 8.8 tower pods with clamps retails for $1175. The Wet Sounds Icon-8 with fixed universal clamps, which is what you need to compare to not the Rev sereis, retail for $750. Thats a $425 difference. That will get you the amp to drive the Icons and still be in the black. $1200 will get you Rev-10 with fixed clamps. Thats about 40% more surface area and 2X the power handling.
First off, I do not claim to be an expert in audio...I only am commenting from what I have heard/seen in person. In fact, I would love to know more for future builds and I appreciate your post. I have never heard good mids/lows come from the revs in any size. Yes, this could be due to poor tuning/powering, but I have heard a lot of boats like this versus what I have heard from COAX types. And I only have experience with the JLs from COAX/Components for towers. The Icons I would need to hear. But my comments are more around HLCD to COAX or components and the performance differences from each along with the price comparison (again focusing on the WS to JL from my own personal experience). I am not knocking WS in any way. I heard one boat that was professionally done with all WS including 2 REV 8s and 4 REV 10s with two 12s inside the boat but I am not sure on the cabin speakers or the amps. The highs were very loud and clear and so was the bass (from the subs) but mids were lacking. So this tells me that either the REVs produce little to no mid/lows or the highs simply washes it all out. Perhaps removing the two REV8s and putting in the Icons would balance it out.
One other comment for discussion...I would think even with more surface area, you are less efficient with a whole in the woofer than not. That's probably the location for the highest air pressure on extension of the woofer...which means it is washing behind the cone rather than pushing it all forward like a solid cone.
Also, shopping around, you can get the 8.8s with the brackets for under $900. Yes, still more than the Icons, but I am not comparing to those.
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