I got towed by an '09 LSV Malibu today

[enolten]

Come on Fman..
(rear facing seating options, Z5 cargo racks, rad a cage tower, pull out heaters, large "useable" ice chest/steps/air filler storage, great seat heights for taller people, stowable ski pylon). The Rad a cage tower is so much more solid than the X15 and Malibu swoop tower

z5 cargo is an upgrade $$, rad a cage is squeeking like a haunted house, pull out heaters is an upgrade $$, icechest sucks(does on the MC and BU also), seat height in x-star is higher, tower is also higher, ski pilon on a wakeboardboat?. Let's talk about the swivelracks...how can you compare them to the racks on the MC? tighten your board with a $0.20 bungee? I know that the BU and CC also have a bungee but come on...

Snap in carpet...i can't let that one go...carpet over carpet...you gotta be kiddin' me...

now to be honest...it might not be fair to compare my current x-star to my new/old 22 ssv...but.....

now if i take my x-star and if i would have paid full price, maybe i would be a little more critical towards my boat...but they dropped the price $35,000 and now i feel like i got a good deal with the quality i expect for the amount of money i paid for the boat...

i paid $65,000 for my 22 ssv last year and it definitely was not worth the money due to lack of quality for that price...

[Fman]

Come on Fman..
(rear facing seating options, Z5 cargo racks, rad a cage tower, pull out heaters, large "useable" ice chest/steps/air filler storage, great seat heights for taller people, stowable ski pylon). The Rad a cage tower is so much more solid than the X15 and Malibu swoop tower

z5 cargo is an upgrade $$, rad a cage is squeeking like a haunted house, pull out heaters is an upgrade $$, icechest sucks(does on the MC and BU also), seat height in x-star is higher, tower is also higher, ski pilon on a wakeboardboat?. Let's talk about the swivelracks...how can you compare them to the racks on the MC? tighten your board with a $0.20 bungee? I know that the BU and CC also have a bungee but come on...

Snap in carpet...i can't let that one go...carpet over carpet...you gotta be kiddin' me...

now to be honest...it might not be fair to compare my current x-star to my new/old 22 ssv...but.....

now if i take my x-star and if i would have paid full price, maybe i would be a little more critical towards my boat...but they dropped the price $35,000 and now i feel like i got a good deal with the quality i expect for the amount of money i paid for the boat...

i paid $65,000 for my 22 ssv last year and it definitely was not worth the money due to lack of quality for that price...

Enolton,

The Sunsport has a great ice chest, you do loose a seat because of it, but its very useable. The ice chest under the back seat is a joke, we use it for garbage. My rad a cage is rock solid, maybe you got a bad tower? I have seen the X-15 tower rattle and shake quite a bit on my friends boat. I do like the MC board racks, although JohnnyB said he saw one collapse and almost take someone out on the boat. The new Roswell swivels they sent me last week are much better and seem to be solid. Not knocking mastercraft, I think they make a great boat, but for my use, the Supra is more user friendly for my family and I. Like I mentioned, been out on an X-15 and Malibu LSV, nice boats, but I would take my Supra over them no questions asked.

Hey, maybe I should go log on to the mastercraft website like you are doing here and start talking about how happy I am with my 40k Supra 22V???? You seem to be on this board still to justify your purchase... thats a little bit of a concern. All boats will have issues, how you maintain and treat them also has something to do with how long they last.

I am glad your MC is working out for you, hopefully you get a lot of trouble free years on the water.

[enolten]

You are missing the point...I probably would say how happy i was with my boat if i paid $40,000 for it...but i did not pay $40,000...i expected more out of my boat for $65,000. And no i am not knocking on supra as a whole, since i have said in an earlier thread that i was very happy with my 21 V...($43,000). Price reflects an expectationlevel...my expectation was not reached by my 22 ssv.

[Fman]

You are missing the point...I probably would say how happy i was with my boat if i paid $40,000 for it...but i did not pay $40,000...i expected more out of my boat for $65,000. And no i am not knocking on supra as a whole, since i have said in an earlier thread that i was very happy with my 21 V...($43,000). Price reflects an expectationlevel...my expectation was not reached by my 22 ssv.

I can understand that, the X-star is a great boat, and yes I agree, for $65k you should have no complaints about your boat. Like I said, hope your X-star meets your needs.

It's all good, and enjoying yourself on the water is what it is all about.

[jonyb]

I just wanted to add that my tower is almost the worst one I've stood under on any wakeboat so far. I wear my kill-switch in fear of it collapsing in rough water. It flexes at least 1" next to my head. In the driver's seat, the tower and window block my vision to the side of the boat. That's where it flexes 1", so imagine how much it flexes up top.....

I don't think my tower is doing that because it's defective. It's just a cheap boat.

[FoiltechLaunch21V]

I ride in a X-Star at least twice a week. Only because we rotate between a X-star, Launch 21V and Nautique 211. First off the X-Star's are LOUD and it takes two hands to steer the thing (Just like a X2 that we ride behind in Florida), the seats are too low to be comfortable, the seats are also very flat therefore you have to hold on to keep from sliding off. We have broken the tower at the pylon (which Took Master Craft 2 months to get fixed) This also happened at an event in Florida last year on another MC. It broke the same place. I will say it has a really nice wake, but that's all I can say good about it. It burns over 6 gallons of fuel per hour (2 gallons more than the 21V) All of us that ride even the owner of the X-star prefer the 21V or the 211 over the X-star.

Personally I have had some very major issues with my Supra, But I would never trade it for a X-star or X2. Just my .02

[Fman]

I just wanted to add that my tower is almost the worst one I've stood under on any wakeboat so far. I wear my kill-switch in fear of it collapsing in rough water. It flexes at least 1" next to my head. In the driver's seat, the tower and window block my vision to the side of the boat. That's where it flexes 1", so imagine how much it flexes up top.....

I don't think my tower is doing that because it's defective. It's just a cheap boat.

I would say it is defective, my tower is rock solid and never wobbles, shakes, or makes any noise.... I have 120 hours on my boat this year. John, hate to say it but I think you got a lemon. If your tower is that loose you need to contact SC and a dealer to have it repaired or replaced.

[jonyb]

I would say it is defective, my tower is rock solid and never wobbles, shakes, or makes any noise.... I have 120 hours on my boat this year. John, hate to say it but I think you got a lemon. If your tower is that loose you need to contact SC and a dealer to have it repaired or replaced.

Lets put it this way, the rubber pad under the rear leg of one of the posts (between the fiberglass and the tower) was wiggled it's way almost all the way out from under the tower.

[dickydiehl]

i'm so sick and tired of you guys bitching about your problems get off the computer and go ride.i don't want to here if my boat was not broken then i would use it more bull---- you guys just sit on here and bitch becuse you don't have anything better to do.oh and by the way sc customer service is awsome on my first boat the dealer held my 20 grand and did not send it to sc until a month after the boat was done so sc gave me tower speakers and a cover for free and it was not even their fault(02 mobius) also on my second boat(07 22 ssv)i sent my boat back to the factory for some gelcoat cracks and the paddle wheel was in the wrong spot.they gave me a whole new topdeck with all the 08 upgrades such as the cupholders in the front new steering wheel new hinges and all the other 08 upgrades.also this year the carpet on one of my bunks was ripping and my bar on my platform was messed up at the dealer so they sent me a whole new platform and enough carpet to do my whole trailer not to mention other small things as well.a buddy of mine has an 05 xstar(75 grand) and has had everything and i mean everything go wrong with it and mastercraft has not warrantied hardly any of it.so quit your crying and go buy a seadoo if you don't like your boat becuse the rest of us do!

[enolten]

Nobody is forcing you to read this post...btw...seems like you had some issues with yours...