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  1. #61
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    i did foam blocks to allow for drainage. poured foam is nasty when wet. it sticks to ANYTHING and sticks very well. foam will form a skin once it dries. my thought was that any water that got in there would be able to drain off. if the foam was poured without the bags, it will clog everything up.

    another possible problem with poured foam and limber holes is that water can back-up into the limber holes if you forget the plug or something. you don't want the foam to get soaked. the blocks won't absorb water.

    i was afraid noise would be loud and i wanted some flotation. i might skip foam if i were to ever do another.

    okie's ballast/storage idea is a good one. are you putting the factory ski pole back in?

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    salt - No ski pole was on the boat so i removed the plate and i have a tower already , I think on the foam ill pass . i want this thing to be dry ... i also have 3 new blowers that the guy gave me i thought of putting 2 where the air intake goes into the floor and 2 on the rear for forward and outward air flow ..

    I still need to find a wake plate .. there was never one on here . so if you or anyone else know where i find one please let me know .. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by lively View Post
    OB- I like the ballast idea ! how much weight you put in your boat ? cause i have like 4 flotec pumps 360 gph that im going to fix up in there for ballast ,
    I typically run about 1300# of weight. The space under the cooler in the bilge has enough volume for about 500# of weight, but I don't have the right sized bags to fit it all down there. I'm eventually going to get a custom bag made, most likely. Currently I run a 350# bag down there and a 250# on top between the doghouse and cooler. I also rebuilt the rear seat base so it is one large area, along with putting support underneath the ski locker (I have the drop in plastic style). The two bags that go in the rear are ones I bought off a Moomba owner that were standard bags. IIRC they are 10 x 16 x 72 and give about 400#. So I have the two bags in the back that total ~800# and the two bags up front that total ~600#. None of them fill completely so I estimate I'm getting about 1300#. It makes a nice wake. I'm running one Simer pump and manually connecting to fill/drain. This winter I plan to plumb in a manifold with valves and hosing to each bag so with the one pump I can fill the bags one at a time with the flip of a switch and turn of a handle until they're all full. If possible, I'll get the custom bag for down below too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okie Boarder View Post
    I typically run about 1300# of weight. The space under the cooler in the bilge has enough volume for about 500# of weight, but I don't have the right sized bags to fit it all down there. I'm eventually going to get a custom bag made, most likely. Currently I run a 350# bag down there and a 250# on top between the doghouse and cooler. I also rebuilt the rear seat base so it is one large area, along with putting support underneath the ski locker (I have the drop in plastic style). The two bags that go in the rear are ones I bought off a Moomba owner that were standard bags. IIRC they are 10 x 16 x 72 and give about 400#. So I have the two bags in the back that total ~800# and the two bags up front that total ~600#. None of them fill completely so I estimate I'm getting about 1300#. It makes a nice wake. I'm running one Simer pump and manually connecting to fill/drain. This winter I plan to plumb in a manifold with valves and hosing to each bag so with the one pump I can fill the bags one at a time with the flip of a switch and turn of a handle until they're all full. If possible, I'll get the custom bag for down below too.
    Heck ya man , sounds like you got some weight in that puppy ... the sacks are pretty expensive ... you think it would be cheaper to weld some tanks up instead ?

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    Default Friday !! Foam removal day ! Lol

    well guys its friday and the weather is not so bad today we were supposed to get rain but just like everything else it get's passed on a few days ..

    so today Im planning on removing the rest of the deck and remove all the leftover foam ... Then i plan to take measurements of the stringers and start cutting on side out ... Im ordering the resin next week and still looking on C.L. for a used table saw .. so wish me luck and hope yall enjoy your labor day holiday weekend .. ill post some more pics this weekend . -lively-

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    Quote Originally Posted by lively View Post
    Heck ya man , sounds like you got some weight in that puppy ... the sacks are pretty expensive ... you think it would be cheaper to weld some tanks up instead ?
    I doubt it. I started looking at tanks and it didn't seem like it was going to be very cost effective compared to bags.

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    below the deck and integrated into the stringer system is the best bang for your buck. i'm cheering you on, we've all wanted to do it but it's probably something like running an extra mile after a marathon. (won't ever catch me running one so i'm just guessing)

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    late night foamin lol

    This foam is no fun ! But it's out

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    Instead of ballast what about a wedge right here

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    Looking good. Man I remember what a pain the foam was and how many trash bags we filled...LOL! The wedge is an option to consider. The one thing you need to understand is the amount of force it will apply to the back of the boat and reinforce it accordingly.

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