So I will have to try that this weekend, the wakeplate all the way down ( I have noticed the front.is always high) and all the weight I have 1500 lbs, and maybe put 6 people in the boat. Put 250-500 lbs in the front to lengthen the wake, it is very tall and steep. Hopefully this is the weekend I go ropelless. Maybe next year invest in a surf prop, I hear it helps out a lot cleaning up the wake and what not!