For sure and it definitely is. I would even say G territory on just how deep
I wouldn't quite go that far. Excited about a new boat? More excited about strides and improvements that make the sport better but not at the sacrifice of making entry more difficult than it already is. The boats being built today won't even became available to me for another 10 years or more because a boat is a toy and I will never have a toy if it requires a monthly payment because then it is no longer a toy to me.
And who knows how all these new electronics and gadgets are going to hold up to the test of time? I look at all the old Douglas airplanes still running around like they rolled off the factory yesterday and then I see newer airplanes already being scrapped because the cost to maintain them and repair/replace parts is cost prohibitive.
'86 Comp TS6M - Reborn 2016
Riding a HO Sports CX Ski
When I look at the boat objectively there really are not many things on it I would rather have than what my old azz pirata has lol. Part of me would like the engine but then I think there are to many things that can go wrong and they are to expensive to fix. I will just stick with the simple old carbed 454 that still starts with the bump of a key lol. The power trim and wake plate are the only things I would really like on my old boat and I will add them over the winter.
As the old saying goes "there is a azz for every seat" so it is cool that they are building something that some people will want, it is just not what I would want.
To me a boat is a tool that I need to ski and wakeboard. I don't care how many gadgets it has. I want the engine to start, I want it to drive well and I don't want it to leak water and that is all lol.
I think the same is true of any enthusiast community - there's always a mixed reaction to a newer/better/inevitably more complicated thing, when we put so much effort and care into our older machines. I'm guilty of it. My brain is also programmed to a certain way of thinking based on my financial reality. It's hard to get all that excited about something I can't possibly afford in the foreseeable future. I should be more open-minded, though, and get excited about the advances in the industry.
I'm also the type who, even if I won the lottery tomorrow, wouldn't go buy a new boat or a new car. Maybe it's partly where I live, where people really don't show off their money. Those who do, everyone knows who they are, and not in a good way.
I don't really look at it as showing off your money. I can't afford a brand new SA either, but that doesn't mean it doesn't excite me. Companies have to put out new boats every year for there to be used boats to think about in the future. It also gives great ideas to work into your own boat. Surf board storage, surf system designs, all those advancements are cool to see on all of these new boats. Sure, they're expensive, but that doesn't mean everyone that goes and buys these things is foregoing their financial stability to have an overpriced toy in their garage. Some do, and those that do, more power to them to do what they want to do, but some actually enjoy having something "new" for personal satisfaction and enjoyment.
Is it fun to have the latest and greatest that everyone comments on? Sure. I think, however, it would be more fun to have a machine that does everything you want it to do, in the most convenient way possible, if it's attainable to you. That's how I look at it... and while I can't afford one of these now, it gives me great ideas of how to potentially fabricate my own DIY swell type of system using tabs, or how to retrofit some kind of surf pockets on a bimini for storage there, or whatever the case may be. Plus, it's the brand we all love... we should all be jumping for joy that Supra, and SC in general, are making strives to be one of the big, top tier, no BS manufacturers of towboats these days. Sure they're expensive, but they're also a top brand recently, and their boats are making a serious impression on the wake industry as a whole IMO. There's lots of MC haters, and Malibu haters, and haters of one brand or another. I feel like it's super rare to hear... "Yeah, those Supra's are terrible", because they're not. They're making great boats, have just released and incredible new product, and there were like 5 total posts about it after a solid 2-3 days of its release on it's home forum. Just strikes me as odd.
We might think spending that kind of cash on a toy is stupid, it might be. But then there's others that also think buying a $4k dollar boat with rotted strings and no interior is stupid too, especially after dumping 10-15k into it, only to have a boat worth 10-12k max afterwards. Seems like you could find a nice boat about 15 years newer in the 20-25k range and still have spent about the same amount of money overall after it's all said and done.
Just a difference in opinions I guess.
-Mike
2006 Supra Sunsport 20V
This. The Moomba forum is where people who's boats are not of drinking age go to post. It really sucks for newer Supra owners that this thread is so dead. We have an annual Texas Moomba/Supra Jam and usually have about 20-30 boats attend and its usually a pretty even split between Moomba and Supra and the Moomba forum thread on the event gets a lot of attention. Here no one posts on it and I am guessing it's because the Supras that attend are not carbureted with rebuilt wooden stringers lol
2008 Moomba Mobius LSV. Full Exile System. Can you hear me now?
Well I think the new SA is pretty cool looking. When I was looking for a new boat(Late 2013) it was between the SA and SC. I chose the SC over the SA mainly for the reason that the SC had a much higher freeboard. If you were a rookie driving an SA, more than likely you will dunk that bow. Love the fact that Supra changed the SA and gave it a much needed higher freeboard.
It's ugly. Not hideous as many new boats are, but thoroughly ugly. The bow is goofy, the tower is goofy (dislike two leg towers, seem weak and look weird), the gel schemes are ugly (maybe needs more skulls?), the cap comes down far with a goofy location for rub rail/seam.
The dash looks about a hair shy of useless. Goofy exhaust. Small engine. Electronics and computers in critical systems.
I'm sure it's a great boat in the utilitarian sense so long as you aren't the type to keep things long enough for things to break or wear out.